North Korea

[-:Undertaker:-]

My grandfather actually owned one of the first cars in the Soivet Union, and one of the brands there was pretty good, called the Volga in its glory days. I saw that Top Gear show and they were biased by picking only the worser Soviet brands, which I agree are crap.

As for the Putin, he is corruput, I basically had to pay the police bribes to get my passport last time I was in Russia and that is considered normal practice. That really is Capitalism eh

Of course he did, because he seems to be a well off man considering he was a diplomat hence why I say your family was so far removed from the realities of the Soviet Union. On Putin, he may be corrupt but he was elected which is more than goes without saying for Lenin, Stalin, Khruschev and all the Soviet Premiers.

[Grig]

Actualy my great grandma has Socialism to thank, she was nothing and Socialism gave her a degree and improved her life by 5 miles. Socialism was a ideology of opportunities for everyone.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Actualy my great grandma has Socialism to thank, she was nothing and Socialism gave her a degree and improved her life by 5 miles. Socialism was a ideology of opportunities for everyone.

Actually she has herself to thank, she was the one who worked for that degree and not socialism or the government. She chose to work for a degree, she chose to do good for herself. Socialism chose nothing for her and did nothing for her. More to the point, whats the use in being educated in a socialist state when the majority of it is propaganda and no use anyway, because the economy of the country is in tatters.

Say how good socialism to the people under it now, in Burma and North Korea where they struggle to put food on the table for themselves and their children and where if you want to fight for anything to improve, you are executed and your family persecuted.

[Black_Apalachi]

Needless to say; I'm not reading any of those Great Walls of China text lol

... Above all he was very rude in North Korea, pissing people off continually and pushing the boundaries at every opportunity. He chose to go there so he should respect their culture and their people, there's absolutely no need to go about it like that, it's not even the peoples fault. You don't have to agree with anything they do, but at least go along with it and let the people watching decide.

I do have to agree really. He did come across as a typical facepalm-worthy yank.