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    Quote Originally Posted by Oli View Post
    I see the flaws but I also see the benefits.

    My arse will it affect 70% of voters mind. I highly doubt 70% of the voting public own an estate worth £500k+.

    Free nursing homes etc is something needed in my opinion and this seems a plausible way to get it.

    As Gomme said, the tories would only do something similar to this.
    A lot of houses down south are worth over £500k and more to the point, why should people who have been taxed on their wages, taxed when they buy their house, taxed when they buy the contents of their house and taxed throughout their life on using services - also be taxed for being dead?

    Do we want to go back to the 1970s were we punished hard work/success by hiking taxes or do we want a country where people are encouraged to better themselves?

    Of course something does need to be done, but the fact is we are a very wealthy country and if we had a government which stopped wasting/giving money away then maybe we'd be able to afford nice things like this instead of making the economic situation worse for both the state and families by creating yet another tax thus taking money away from consumers which has a relay effect on the state.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    That is socialism yeah and thats why I support the opposite, I dont see your point(?) that you are putting(?) across.
    you've said completely the opposite, you've said 'we should look after our own people' yet this is completely against your theory of individualism, small state and people 'bankrolling their own retirement.' Plus you've shown support for the NHS, which is again completely against this ideology you talk of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    you've said completely the opposite, you've said 'we should look after our own people' yet this is completely against your theory of individualism, small state and people 'bankrolling their own retirement.' Plus you've shown support for the NHS, which is again completely against this ideology you talk of.
    I think your trying to make a mountain out of a molehill here;

    Taxes have to exist yeah? - so the lower the taxes, the better because the individual can spend their own money. The taxes that we do have to have toi keep the country running; rather than giving it to other countries we spend it here because thats what the taxes generated by the British taxpayer are for. If was I completely indiviualist as you are suggesting, then I wouldn't support any form of government rule would I and i'd be an anarchist. As for the NHS, the NHS needs to be reformed with management and its budgets restrained. If all that fails then the only looming option would be privatisation although we should do anything we can to avoid that. When I say we should spend money on the NHS; well yes, if we have the money spend it on the NHS and not give it to India/EU and Zimbabwe because thats what we pay taxes for.
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    I believe that is one stupid tax to push for, what's next...... birth tax?

    How horrible it must be if you had lost a close family member, and then to top it off you get screwed over by the government.
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    thats horrible people wanna die in peace not worried that there family will be debt ! i hope that it doesn't become complusary !

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    It's quite funny really. Businesses and the Government are incredibly rude and belittling when it comes to mourning, bereavement and death as it is. Strong penalties for using joint accounts after the death of someone (Tesco are a main contendant when it comes to horrible behaviour). This is just going to make the recently bereaved more anxious and upset :/

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    I'll probably hide my money near my death that not even my family know about it until they find it, unless it's too much to hide. You might aswell put a pound symbol as their gravestone.

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    to be honest i think this tax is a good thing instead of our current system which bleeds people dry of their savings when they need to be put in a residential home. i know some peoples families who've literally lost hundreds of thousands of pounds...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    to be honest i think this tax is a good thing instead of our current system which bleeds people dry of their savings when they need to be put in a residential home. i know some peoples families who've literally lost hundreds of thousands of pounds...
    Then if its the case we havent got enough money, instead of punishing success and stripping assets of the taxpayer dry that they own not the government - stop wasting/giving money away to the EU, India, Zimbabwe and many other things/countries and we could then use that to fund our own people. That is afterall why we pay taxes in the first place.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    Then if its the case we havent got enough money, instead of punishing success and stripping assets of the taxpayer dry that they own not the government - stop wasting/giving money away to the EU, India, Zimbabwe and many other things/countries and we could then use that to fund our own people. That is afterall why we pay taxes in the first place.
    i thought people shouldn't be sufficient on the state and drain everyone's money... :S bankroll their own retirements? :S

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