[NOT HAPPY!] Health Form Bill Passed

[marriott0.01]

The US House of Representatives has narrowly voted to pass a landmark healthcare reform bill at the heart of President Barack Obama's agenda.
The bill was passed by 219 votes to 212, with no Republican backing, after hours of fierce argument and debate.
It extends coverage to 32 million more Americans, and marks the biggest change to the US healthcare system in decades.
"We proved that we are still a people capable of doing big things," Mr Obama said in remarks after the vote.
"This legislation will not fix everything that ails our healthcare system, but it moves us decisively in the right direction," he said.
Mr Obama is expected to sign the legislation into law shortly.
But a new challenge is expected in the Senate, where Democrats hope amendments to the bill will be enacted by a simple majority. Republicans say the move is unconstitutional and plan to stop it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8579322.stm

No way should it of passed.

[Catzsy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8579322.stm

No way should it of passed.

Any reason why it should not have been?

[marriott0.01]

Any reason why it should not have been?

Just side with Republicans all the time, and people should help themselves, not get the taxpayers to pay for everything especially for an economy in the toilet.

[Catzsy]

Just side with Republicans all the time, and people should help themselves, not get the taxpayers to pay for everything especially for an economy in the toilet.

Okay - fair comment. I don't know enough about the american system to make a valid comment but I know this was one of his original election pledges.

[Kieran]

Isn't that just going to make your system like the NHS?

[xxMATTGxx]

Don't you live in the UK though? I don't know you fully so I wouldn't know if you have any links with the USA like family and such. Some people have really annoyed me on another forum about this bill. Health care should be a right, not something you should need to earn.

[Catzsy]

Don't you live in the UK though? I don't know you fully so I wouldn't know if you have any links with the USA like family and such. Some people have really annoyed me on another forum about this bill. Health care should be a right, not something you should need to earn.

Well I agree on this point. It extends health insurance to another 32 million americans who didn't qualify for it and who presumably had to suffer before - I do think they have to contribute. It's a humanitarian thing to do. Good for him I say in not backing down on a fairly unpopular election pledge and carrying it through despite huge opposition.

[marriott0.01]

Don't you live in the UK though? I don't know you fully so I wouldn't know if you have any links with the USA like family and such. Some people have really annoyed me on another forum about this bill. Health care should be a right, not something you should need to earn.

Was born in the USA, family live there. And Health Care is very expensive, why should people who work hard pay for people's health care when all they do is sit on their lazy butts and do nothing to help the economy.

[xxMATTGxx]

Well I agree on this point. It extends health insurance to another 32 million americans who didn't qualify for it and who presumably had to suffer before - I do think they have to contribute. It's a humanitarian thing to do. Good for him I say in not backing down on a fairly unpopular election pledge and carrying it through despite huge opposition.

Yeah, I agree that people should be contributing but not everyone can work or afford it. Here is a view from one Amercian:

When diabetics spend upwards of $200-300 a month (living paycheck to paycheck) out of pocket because the insurer won't pay for it, that's wrong, and nobody should be treated that way. People can't prevent unforseen circumstances, such as diabetes or high blood pressure. How is that fair?

If I cannot find a job, and there are no jobs where I live, so don't start about laziness like that, there is no way I can get healthcare unless my mom is working. My mom is working two states away because that's where the jobs are.

If you think today's healthcare system is fine and dandy, it's time to wake up. It's not. When your neighbor has to declare bankruptcy because his wife got breast cancer and their insurance dropped, I'd like you to say to their face "It's your fault and I don't want to help you".

Quit acting like America is the best place ever, and start considering what types of benefits you have over everybody else. It's unfair to deny people a doctor, but provide them with a lawyer.

I agree with what he is saying to be honest.

Was born in the USA, family live there. And Health Care is very expensive, why should people who work hard pay for people's health care when all they do is sit on their lazy butts and do nothing to help the economy.

Not everyone is lazy though, there might not be any jobs around that person or they may not be able to work due to medical reasons. They should still have a right to have healthcare?

[Alkaz]

I agree with what Matt has said. There will probably be a lot more hard working families who barely make a living and can't actually pay for their health care than those who just sit back and don't really do much at all. Are you saying that because of the lazy people that those hard working people who barely can afford to live don't deserve this? Personally I think this is a really good idea.