Gordon Brown overruled by EU on banning of dangerous drug

[alexxxxx]

Why do we have elections then for that matter?

How can you blame our government, yes perhaps they should of banned it earlier (although when it first arrived here I am unsure of) but surely the sovereign elected government of the United Kingdom should be able to ban a dangerous substance which has killed two young lads already rather than having to wait for the unelected eurocrats in Brussels to give the green light which would take more than 3 months?

theyd have to run it through legislation first which would already take ages. if we had your preferred method of referendum it would take even longer.

[-:Undertaker:-]

theyd have to run it through legislation first which would already take ages. if we had your preferred method of referendum it would take even longer.

So why not start that process right now in our elected parliament rather than waiting a period of 3 months for the EU to say yes or no. As for referendum, drugs would not come under referendum. The issue of drugs is not even comparable to the death penalty and issues such as that which should be decided via referendum. A government is there to protect its people, something it can no longer seem to be able to do as proven by this.

[alexxxxx]

So why not start that process right now in our elected parliament rather than waiting a period of 3 months for the EU to say yes or no. As for referendum, drugs would not come under referendum. The issue of drugs is not even comparable to the death penalty and issues such as that which should be decided via referendum. A government is there to protect its people, something it can no longer seem to be able to do as proven by this.

why shouldn't drugs come with issues like the DP? there is a lot of public support for the legalisation of certain drugs. who picks what goes up for referendum? it's an incredibly flawed system. if the government were to ban the sale of mcat tomorrow, i'm sure the EU commission wouldn't have an issue with it plus they should have had other ways of banning the drug, better safeguards. it's frivolous to blame the EU for this..

[Eoin]

cigarettes and alcohol kill 40 times more people than all legal highs combined.

but i suppose hearing that an alki died isnt a good story is it??
hearing that an 'innocent teenager' who 'cleary had no idea what he/she was getting into' had overdosed on the 'devils own legal high, straight from hell' will give you plenty of gossip ammo for the next week eh?
away and pish.

[AgnesIO]

For a start, the taliban burned the opium fields in afghanistan, they don't sow them. You need to respect other people's opinions and stop using stereotypes.

I respect an opinion if it is not so god damned stupid it needed to be kicked.

cigarettes and alcohol kill 40 times more people than all legal highs combined.

but i suppose hearing that an alki died isnt a good story is it??
hearing that an 'innocent teenager' who 'cleary had no idea what he/she was getting into' had overdosed on the 'devils own legal high, straight from hell' will give you plenty of gossip ammo for the next week eh?
away and pish.

There is also about 200 times more people who drink and smoke than who take legal highs. And about 200 times more people who drink and smoke than take crack.

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Although I do think it should be banned, I do have to agree that the papers have made it out WAY worse than it is. Because it is new to the scene it is a bigger story. I mean if you said someone died du to taking crack nobody would be bothered, however because it is fairly unknown in general it is big news.

[GommeInc]

So we hould let gangs run wild selling cocaine etc easier than ever.
Then help the Taliban by buying loads of Heroin. Fantastic, I look forward to hearing your visit to hospital after an overdose.

Some people fail to notice that it's not about private consumption, it's the fact alot of money is going to be wasted on them e.g. hospital, police etc.

[FlyingJesus]

they had already said it was going to take months to get through the legislation anyway. plus this substance is used as part of plant fertiliser.

plus the drug is illegal in many other EU states, so perhaps the government should have acted much earlier? or maybe the way drugs are prohibited by law should be changed.

I don't think anyone has ever spent £10-15 a gram on something they want to use as a plant fertiliser that's just what it's marketed as because it's illegal to sell it for human consumption

Nope. I've tried Meph and it's a laugh. I don't think the government should be able to ban anything that only harms an individual, ever.

Put what the **** you want into your bodies, just don't come near me or my house. Including the government.

Woopwoop JS Mill. I do agree, but that would only cover the taking of such substances, rather than the manufacture and selling of (as that obviously does affect others)

So we hould let gangs run wild selling cocaine etc easier than ever.
Then help the Taliban by buying loads of Heroin. Fantastic, I look forward to hearing your visit to hospital after an overdose.

Nope, as I said above selling drugs is not a thing that only affects an individual. Also I'm fairly sure most drug money goes to big time dealers rather than to terrorist organisations

The issue of drugs is not even comparable to the death penalty and issues such as that which should be decided via referendum

Are you suggesting that the public are capable of making a decision about the outright killing of other human beings but not about substance trafficking?

[Black_Apalachi]

Making it illegal will just make it more dangerous.

[alexxxxx]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8592103.stm

home secretary to ban the drug 'within weeks'

[Wig44.]

It's best to make it illegal so people will at least understand the implications of taking it, ie it's illegal because of the risk of damaging your health.