Ideas - *controversial*

[Blob]

I agree with most of them. Maybe the competitions team could setup a posting quest for new users or something, to keep them entertained while they post.

[dogboy123]

What do you mean '(and even when people agree)' - does that mean if one person likes an idea everyone has to?

The problem is unlike many people, I cannot be bothered to write an essay on why I don't think post count should be turned off.

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Might I point out habbox has over 50,000 'active' members, is the most successful habbo fansite, and continues to grow? Are people not realising if people still sign up and post there is not a problem. DON'T FIX WHAT IS NOT BROKEN.

I dont see many new users posting any further than their welcome threads...

[Barmi]

dnt mean to be rude spesh since i see sexy calum viewing this thread but chf does get hacked.... and i cant remember the last time hxf got hacked since omg idk probs 3-4 yrs?? they need to start convertin guests into users

mebbe a quicker sign up system but then thats vbulletin so yknow

Oh absolutely! It's been compromised once in recent memory, but that was through human error. Some plugins and modifications are useful, and I'm sure Habbox management are much more welcoming to the idea than they were a few years ago... but I'm also sure they are cautious to keep such things minimised so as to safeguard forum stability. By and large, the most popular plugins are very safe... stability concerns are usually more of an issue.

@OP: I do agree with you on the avatars point, and I hope management discuss it. As someone rightly pointed out in this thread, it's an instant at-a-glance inferiority/superiority thing. I don't think new members are concerned about progression, reputation or join date –– they want to feel equal right away. 'Progression' can be saved in other areas if you're concerned about keeping members for a long time (if you truly believe 'progression' is what keeps them interested...), but larger avatar sizes for a brand new user would be a great change, keeping new members a little bit happier.

Edit: Obviously, there is only so much that can be done to retain new members. After the drama over at another official fansite (users were discussing where they should 'migrate' to), it's clear that some people are terribly fickle and don't want to join an existing community –– but rather want a community to form around them. We shouldn't pander too much to that crowd. In Habbox's case, its best bet is luring young Habbos in from its main site and keeping them here with features that rival most other sites.

[AgnesIO]

I would have been here more and posted more if the features were improved for newer members.



total ignorance right here. Must be no point of this section if nothing should be improved.

No new ideas are often posted here. Sorry I just dont think being able to turn post count off is justifiable. Thank god the features haven't been available then imo

I dont see many new users posting any further than their welcome threads...

That's ALWAYS been the case. Most users will never log back on, but yu can't stop that. That's just like on habbo ..

[immense]

Just want to throw an adjustment into the ring. Maybe for avatars if it's a concern that people won't buy donor if they don't get a bigger avatar, they could have theirs replaced to 180x180 (vip also) and 150x150 can be for everyone else. I think people buy it more for their coloured name and userbar anyway. I think anything smaller is just silly because you can't even have a good avatar you want to be displayed because the limitations make it less appealing. People need to take pride in their account and not feel so excluded. This could help.

Also, as Ben mentioned you see a new user make a welcome thread and then you never see them post again. Something has to be done about this I think.

[Tintinnabulate]

Well let me start by questioning:

If you posted 10,000 times and suddenly every member on the forum had all the standard bronze star feature, could you HONESTLY tell me there would not be an upror, because people get such a lame amount of features?

No need to answer that.

EDIT:

Lorren isn't ******* new..
And last time you did that 'IMMENSEMAN'S OPINIONS ON YOU' crap you said you hated how I posted controversial ideas.

I also don't understand where this thouht came from that new members brick it when they sign u? It it nonsense, I certainly didn't when I signed up - there never has and never will be a reason to be scared to sign up to forum, and the last thing on earth anyone could possibly worry about when they first sign up is that they can't have a big avatar?

I think you raise some good points. People try and not get banned as they dont want to start again. Giving everyone the same features would mean people don't have anything to work towards. its a fact some people like having higher post count - and they should be rewarded. Its only right.

On my forum, I didn't have strict rules. It was simply: Do not be rude. Do not post inappropriate stuff i.e. porn, Do not post links to phishers, Do not spam.

The forum ran amazingly well. I had over 40,000 members sign up in less than 2 years with the site getting in the top 9,000 ranked sites on Alexa. I was getting 30,000 - 40,000 uniques a day. Why? I installed many modifications which people would like. If someone broke a rule, my moderators edited it and sent a friendly PM.
When I had the forum, hundreds of the same forum existed, but people joined mine because it looked welcoming and had so many features to offer.

Right now, what is different about habboxforum and other forums such as CHF? Its a standard vBulletin forum. They need to customise it, more better skins (someone from the forum department really needs to speak to Alkaz for some advice on skins or AGM's need to look at the AGM forum)

The PM's Habbox sends if you break a rule is like you have done something very serious - same with CHF. Th PM template needs to be changed.

This is an example of a PM I received:

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Hi Saurav,

In this post you posted something pointless and off topic.

May I remind you that it is against the Rules to post pointlessly:

A6. Do not post pointlessly ~ A pointless post has no relevance to the topic, any previous post that is relevant, is meaningless (ghnrgher etc) or does little to contribute to the discussion.

Please do not make a habit of this or further action may be taken.

Thanks,
{name} (Forum Moderator)

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Its just so serious and so off putting for new members.

However, if it said this it would be so much better:

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Hi Saurav,

In this post you posted something which can be considered pointless and off-topic.

I would like to take this opportunity to link you to our forum rules and to please read it if you haven't already.

The rule your post has broken is:

A6. Do not post pointlessly ~ A pointless post has no relevance to the topic, any previous post that is relevant, is meaningless (ghnrgher etc) or does little to contribute to the discussion.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to PM me

Thanks,
{name} (Forum Moderator)

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Something like that which is friendly.

I have only mentioned my forum because I want to prove that modifications do help. Simple rules do help. Nicer PMs do help. Staff being very active does help.

The site offers something unique - rare values.
Its time to think of whats unique about HabboxForum.

[Nixt]

What do you mean '(and even when people agree)' - does that mean if one person likes an idea everyone has to?

The problem is unlike many people, I cannot be bothered to write an essay on why I don't think post count should be turned off.

I mean when people agree it is sometimes nice for them explain why they agree. Just saying "I agree" or "I disagree" does little to help us take their feedback into account and then go ahead and implement suggestions.

Might I point out habbox has over 50,000 'active' members, is the most successful habbo fansite, and continues to grow? Are people not realising if people still sign up and post there is not a problem. DON'T FIX WHAT IS NOT BROKEN.

You are quite correct but what one must also consider is that in comparison to what it used to be Habbox most certainly isn't as popular. Any website needs to be constantly evolving and if Habbox fails to do so and falls further and further behind this lapse in activity that is proven by statistics will only get worse. I don't think we're in dire straits but we do need to continue to evolve in order to remain the most successful Habbo fansite out there, particularly with merge coming up.

Oh absolutely! It's been compromised once in recent memory, but that was through human error. Some plugins and modifications are useful, and I'm sure Habbox management are much more welcoming to the idea than they were a few years ago... but I'm also sure they are cautious to keep such things minimised so as to safeguard forum stability. By and large, the most popular plugins are very safe... stability concerns are usually more of an issue.

I quite agree that the current Habbox management are much more open to suggestions for additional plugins than ever before. As with any policy change we do need to take into account many things and forum security and stability is one of them. Nevertheless we are more than willing to implement plugins we feel will be useful.

[Pyroka]

I mean when people agree it is sometimes nice for them explain why they agree. Just saying "I agree" or "I disagree" does little to help us take their feedback into account and then go ahead and implement suggestions.



You are quite correct but what one must also consider is that in comparison to what it used to be Habbox most certainly isn't as popular. Any website needs to be constantly evolving and if Habbox fails to do so and falls further and further behind this lapse in activity that is proven by statistics will only get worse. I don't think we're in dire straits but we do need to continue to evolve in order to remain the most successful Habbo fansite out there, particularly with merge coming up.





I quite agree that the current Habbox management are much more open to suggestions for additional plugins than ever before. As with any policy change we do need to take into account many things and forum security and stability is one of them. Nevertheless we are more than willing to implement plugins we feel will be useful.

i think hxf and chf management should unite and suggest different plugins to eachother yay

btw lol calum i didnt realise i was followin u on twitter what a silly sausage

[W00TZEH]

whoah way too much to read! its a big fat no from me!

Edited by Nicola (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not post pointlessly

[Inseriousity.]

When I was new, I didn't really care much for features and whatnot. It's only when I decided to stay that I would have liked these features. I decided to stay because of the community so if we're thinking of gaining new members, I still think the community is the bigger priority.

However, I think the new users are targeted by the moderators, they are easy targets as they're not clued up with how the forum works and so if a new user gets a PM saying 'your avatar is too big', it looks like the site is too strict and they may be put off by that. I do believe the system is light on new users so there's no problems there but the fact they have to get a PM in the first place probably put a few people off.

As for the arcade, I've always been amazed at the restrictions on it. It just seems so bizarre and unnecessary!