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    Hamas and the PLO are considered to be 'terrorist organisations' by the UK, USA and Israeli governments. Media will be mostly biased towards Israel.
    Palestine needs to be freed before the Israeli scum finish their holocaust against the Palestinians.

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    isnt israel where jesus was born?
    that might have some affect why the west dont do nout

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    Whether or not Hamas are justified is irrelevant, it doesn't detract from the fact that this is an aid ship. Not a military ship, an aid ship. Its completely wrong and disgusting that they should attack such a thing, to me it equates to killing blameless civilians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eoin View Post
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    Jews/Israelis have too much wealth, technology and industry for any country to want to take a stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveTaylor View Post
    Did I say the man was lying no I did not, he had information that was secret between Israel and the USA, the fact they had to abduct him was due to the USA information Israel had was top secret and is still not known today, probably been destroyed. Israel didn't use fake passports, they used legit passports which the British government gave them, however they where covered in the media as fake, again, the media twisting things, the mossad members where and still are British citizens, also, the white phosphorus bombs, you clearly have no idea, November last year, a boat was seized my USA troops out in the sea, filled with white phosphorus bombs, these where heading for Hamas terroist groups, Israel where ordered by the USA to blow these up, due to the chemical deadliness of them, in the actions Israel hit them hard with several hundred rockets, which did indeed make Palestinian causalities.

    On the nuclear front i've stood within 1-2 km's from the nuclear plant which is surrounded by army, you can go see it, and you can see it from google earth, simple as. The issue you and everyone else has on the forum who is trying to side with the media here is the fact you are just showing the evidence they gave out, nothing new which can counter what has been shown after the media which has proven the media wrong over and over.


    You do realise we could be at this all day as the media has so much ******** about all these cases.
    The fact they had to abduct him was because he made a mockery of the Jewish state and exposed its nuclear weapons program. Israels nuclear weapons programme is a 'open secret' and is not signatory of any nuclear treaties therefore it is illegal in the sense that North Koreas weapons are also illegal - they both created them in secret and refuse to acknowledge international groundwork rules on that area. On the white phosperhus issue, i'm sorry but Israel used the chemical over Palestinian towns and cities in full knowledge of what they were using - it wasnt some hit on a ship because white phospherus cannot possibly travel that far.

    I will repeat yet again, Hamas are not a terrorist group. Hamas are the elected government of Palestine along with Fatah. The Palestinian people voted in Hamas just like the British people voted in the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats to the seat of government. Let us ask ourselves this; if Britain was occupied by Nazi Germany and the elected British government-in exile started attempting to take back its territory, would the government be a terrorist organisation in its efforts? - in the Nazi response that would be yes, the moral response would be no as they are fighting for their land back. It is all about morals and Israel has no moral right to exist on land which is not their own.

    The media is not in the wrong, I know you would like (like many on here) the free press/newspapers not to report what you do not like but the fact is that Israel has an illegal nuclear weapons programme and the passports issue - the British government did not authorise Israeli authorities and secret services to duplicate the passports and nor did the Austrialian government. Israel has now fired on a aid ship and continues to keep Gaza under pressure by blocking aid and other resources. It continues to build on land that it does not own in an attempt to colonise the land in its favour. Israel is the terrorist state, free Palestine.

    You accuse the media of fixing the facts and the truth yet you have just done that yourself so how can I trust a word you say in return. Israel forged British and Austrialian passports without the consent of our country or Austrialia hence why they both expelled Israeli diplomats in response.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8582518.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...c/10145459.stm
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    Funny how Israeli's continue firing at the ship after a white-flag.#
    They are in international waters, and not even in the 68mile exclusion zone, 68 MILES.


    This video SHOWS how pathetic the Israelis are. - Please watch the entire video it's very interesting.

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    If Israel is so innocent and brave then why do they employ thousands of people to post pro-israel propaganda on message boards and vote for pro-israel choices in polls?

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    The Megaphone Desktop Tool gives the user the option of going to a particular site with a poll, and if the user chooses to go to the site, the software then casts a vote automatically, when this is technically feasible. The vote is chosen by the distributors of Megaphone.
    Giyus tries to save you the time and effort of locating the voting form inside the website, a seemingly simple task that may prove quite confusing at certain sites. Whenever we technically can we direct you straight to the voting action. If you have arrived at the poll results, it means that you were directed straight to the voting action and have already successfully voted. If for some reason you don't care to vote, you can always use the "No Thanks" link in the article alert popup. [9]
    In the original version, the user was offered the option to vote or not to vote (see screenshot above), but was not offered the option to choose their own vote.
    The software license provides for remote updates: "You understand and agree that Giyus.Org may provide updates, patches and/or new versions of the Software from time to time, including automatic updates that will be installed on your computer, with notice to You, as needed to continue to use the Services, and You hereby authorize such installations."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveTaylor View Post
    without Israel their would be a lot of military weaponry we use today that wouldn't be around
    So you're justifying the billions we have spent and the lives that have been lost in all the fighting around Israel by saying that without them we wouldn't have had to make new weaponry? I hardly think getting a bigger gun is a good trade for creating an illegal state of terrorists.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveTaylor View Post
    hamas imprison their own people
    Every single government imprisons their own people, if they only imprisoned foreigners then native crime would be somewhat rampant. You got a real point here or what?

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    The fact is Israel have offered several times to give out convoys into Gaza
    Yeah they seem a real charitable lot, attacking aid ships that aren't even in their own territory and seizing control.

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    the fact they torture families to help them rid of Israel
    So it's Israel's fault that these things are necessary then, you seem to suggest. If they hadn't been illegally given land to form a new state (read: Western army base) then a good many atrocities would have been avoided.

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    Hamas are getting weapons from Iran, been proved several times, it is clear what their intention is, they are terrorists.
    Their intention is to fight for their land. It's not terrorism if you're the government in control and have been so badly wronged. A far better example of terrorism is having your military board aid ships bound for disaster areas and take them away, killing a few people in the process. Fairly sure I heard of something like that happen just recently.



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