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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    Just to clear up before people get excited about it all, I'm not religious, I just happen to know a lot about religion because I study it. The following are not necessarily my beliefs, I just don't think it's proper for people to bash on ideas if they don't even know what they are. Same goes both ways though, as most religious people I know haven't got a clue about any of this stuff themselves so they're also fools.



    No, with other humans. Adam and Eve are the first mentioned, but nowhere does it say they're the only humans to have been created - one would assume that the creator of a species would want a few more if they're to thrive. Also Adam had a wife before Eve in a lot of Jewish mythology, so there could be half-brothers and sisters or something idk. There's also the introduction of the Nephilim, often stated as the offspring of human/angel couplings. These are the ones wiped out by the flood in the Noah story, as the angels who got jiggy with humans were banished for being naughty.



    To be fair science once agreed with those views



    Moses wasn't the only prophet who got to speak to God lol



    Ya the Tigris and Euphrates river are mentioned, and two others but can't remember the names.
    I agree - but I woudl like to say that science only ever agreed with them (catholics) because science was blocked from progressing by religious dogma, executions and threats. Kind of like science today is blocked by politically fueled dogma, like the eat well plate etc.

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    Err the bible and the quran are the same story they both have the whole adam and eve thing lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    Obviously, but seeing as God gave him the commandments to give us morals on how to live our lives, as a benchmark, he can't just send poor ol' Moses on his way down the hill and think "Shoot! Forgot to mention my hate for the gays!" when he was quite strict about these rules, laws or however you see them The other meetings with God appear to only be mild warnings regarding commandments being broken, like the Sodomites were people who slept around which revolves around sleeping with the neighbour's wife, or taking possessions from your neighbours. Sometimes interpreted as homosexuals, bad/kick-ass angels. It's written so weirdly it's hard to make much sense of the book of Revelations, or the one beginning with L which is rarely spoken
    The writing of near enough the entire Torah - or Old Testament if you're talking Christian terms - is generally attributed to Moses. Leviticus (which is THE law book of the Judeo-Christian faith) is the 3rd book of the Torah directly following the story of Moses (Exodus) and is basically a follow-on of the commandments as it is intended to show a fuller picture of the covenant between God and His people. At no point in any scripture is it said that the Ten Commandments have any precedence over other holy law, that's just how society has made it over the centuries, and like I said not enough people actually know their own religion well enough to think anything different. As for mild warnings, I'd hardly call the absolute destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah mild lol, regardless, that is a Genesis occurrence and the Leviticus passage stating that men shouldn't be getting down on it with other men like they do with the womenfolk comes a few hundred years later (in terms of being commanded, obviously not in terms of writing if Moses wrote the entire lot ) at the very least. The fact that Leviticus is overlooked in modern Christianity is 100% down to social and political changes rather than it being religiously less important in any way - it being the only one of the 5 Torah books to contain nothing but holy law suggests that it really ought to be followed to the letter by anyone claiming to have faith. Again, it comes down to people simply not knowing their own religion, and also the modern idea that you can pick and choose which parts of the Bible you like and still call yourself a Christian.

    Not sure where Revelations comes into this as that's just a story written wayyyy after even the other New Testament books came out and is widely regarded (even by Biblical scholars who might otherwise be inclined to take the Bible literally) as metaphoric for the political state of Rome at the time of writing, but if there was a genuine reason for bringing it up that I missed do correct me and I'll try to think of an answer for whatever it is

    Quote Originally Posted by Wig44. View Post
    I agree - but I woudl like to say that science only ever agreed with them (catholics) because science was blocked from progressing by religious dogma, executions and threats. Kind of like science today is blocked by politically fueled dogma, like the eat well plate etc.
    Absolutely agree, I'd never even make an attempt to claim that the church didn't have a hold over science when pretty much all historical accounts show it so clearly, but yeah like you say science is still being hindered by greater powers today so who knows if in another few decades we find that the universe isn't really infinite or electricity is a living thing or some other huge change to how we view existence basically "science says so" isn't always a good answer haha
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    http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/

    A forum in which most users believe and discuss scientific beliefs surrounding the ideology that the Earth is flat

    I'm permanently banned from there. Apparently I angered them!
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    Pfft. Fundamentalists. :S

    They need to read it figuratively or whatever. READ BETWEEN THE LINES.
    Last edited by Josh; 20-07-2010 at 10:55 AM.
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