Do you think it's right for teachers to shout at pupils

[Hecktix]

lol i agree with the latter half of this. A good teacher doesn't have to shout, they can get their message across without raising their voice. I had an English teacher that had 'the look'. If you got this look, you knew you had to stop whatever you were doing straight away!

Which is why I disagree with your first statement, you don't need a cane to punish pupils.

I kind of agree that a good teacher doesn't need to shout but it's a handy tool for them to have, I had a maths teacher at school, a young Scottish woman and she was an excellent teacher and yes she had one of those looks where if you got it it scared the absolute crap out of you but that might have been because whenever someone got sent out of Miss Weir's class (that was her name), the whole school would hear her shouting at them outside, she went a bit OTT sometimes but minimal kids behaved in her class and a lot of kids had respect for her because she really struck the nice/nasty balance - she always had a very much "you're nice to me, i'm nice to you, you piss me off, I piss you off" attitude and people respected her for it tremendously once they realised, hell I called her "Miss Weird" when I was in year 7 and trust me after that I was nice to her... and she's the only teacher I'm still in contact with today so yeh..

On the other ends of the scale it's interesting, we had a teacher called Mr Dale who formally flew the Vulcans in the RAF (hell didn't we know it, yes he was one of those kinda ex-RAF blokes that never shut up about it) but he literally spoke to the class like we were one of the airmen below him, he'd walk in, slam his metre rule down on the table and scream out a maths question at the top of his voice and got very mad if he didnt get one within 30 secs. All of the lessons were unbelievably regimented and you knew if you didn't follow the rules you were in for one of the worst telling offs you'd ever get in that school. This is wrong in my opinion and scared most kids witless, to the extent where you wouldn't dare get a question wrong or ask for help (you could though, he was very very helpful once you got to know his ways). Although when I was in his class I was in set 2 for maths, half way through the year I was moved up to Set 1. I think it was his excellent teaching that got me there so arguably, regimented lessons full of shouting work too.

On the other end of the scale I had a teacher who never shouted, and I got on with her well as I behaved but I did see a lot of kids pissing her about too.

So yeah, shouting is acceptable in my opinion in any form.

[luce]

i don't see anything wrong with it, they are in charge, it's their job and you should be respectful to them. the way some children treat teachers is disgusting. It's a good life lesson because someone is always going to be your boss and you have to learn to take orders from parents colleges etc so it is the best thing to engrain it from an early age :-)

[Ardemax]

yes otherwise school wouldn't function

[Frodo13.]

I agree in the cane. Obviously I never experienced it myself in school, on the very rare occasion the school rang up home to tell them about my behaviour I sure experienced some corporal punishment at home; my Dad used to whip me with his belt. I never acted up in school after that.

[Xtina]

I support corporal punishment also, we've seen a decline since the war in teaching standards and the standards we all deem acceptable. The cane would install good behaviour back into schools and we'd all know not to push the boundaries let alone be outrighly bad-behaved.

Don't like the idea of the cane? - then don't misbehave in the first place.

But the thing is, I'm someone who would hit back if i got hit by a cane. Also, I do not think many teachers would like the idea of hitting pupils.

[Slowpoke]

Not only do I think it's right, but I think a little slap now and again wouldn't go amiss. Unfortunately, with the current attitude of teenagers nowadays I wouldn't be surprised if they hit back. We don't have any respect for authority it's pretty disgusting really

[Ardemax]

There's no benefit in hitting pupils - it won't discipline them. Yes a few may hush up, but others will just get furious and their attitudes will deteriorate.

[AgnesIO]

But the thing is, I'm someone who would hit back if i got hit by a cane. Also, I do not think many teachers would like the idea of hitting pupils.

Well then you should learn when to have respect for people.

This is where education went wrong - pupils seem to think they have some sort of right to do what they like.

[-:Undertaker:-]

But the thing is, I'm someone who would hit back if i got hit by a cane. Also, I do not think many teachers would like the idea of hitting pupils.

By that time you would know not to hit back because you'd either be thrown out or would be too afraid to mess around again because everytime you think about it, you'll remember the pain it gave you - it'll make you think twice. The teacher issue, well you'd have to let schools deciden whether or not they wish to use it - personally i'd leave it in the hands of the headmaster on which teachers can send the kids to him and he can decide.

Of course you'll get soft schools and hard schools on the issue - but thats expected.

There's no benefit in hitting pupils - it won't discipline them. Yes a few may hush up, but others will just get furious and their attitudes will deteriorate.

It will disipline them because when you are hit you will think again about messing around. This whole sociological approach to everything in recent time (crime, education etc) is exactly the reason why we have falling standards and a lack of respect.

'It isnt his fault because..' - well maybe its time people start taking some responsibility rather than blaming what they do on everybody else.

[Ardemax]

By that time you would know not to hit back because you'd either be thrown out or would be too afraid to mess around again because everytime you think about it, you'll remember the pain it gave you - it'll make you think twice. The teacher issue, well you'd have to let schools deciden whether or not they wish to use it - personally i'd leave it in the hands of the headmaster on which teachers can send the kids to him and he can decide.

Of course you'll get soft schools and hard schools on the issue - but thats expected.



It will disipline them because when you are hit you will think again about messing around. This whole sociological approach to everything in recent time (crime, education etc) is exactly the reason why we have falling standards and a lack of respect.

'It isnt his fault because..' - well maybe its time people start taking some responsibility rather than blaming what they do on everybody else.

I think education moved forward rather than backwards when the cane and any object to hit pupils with, was banned.

i would still argue that if students were hit by the cane, that will just get them more furious? and what if they have learning disiabilites? hitting them with something such as a cane will not prevent them from doing anything, it will just cause and outrage.