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    If he wants to do it, he should. Saying he is an idiot because it could provoke violence or death is extremely stupid. The stupid ones are the people who retaliate with violence. Don't condemn someone for the over-sensitivity of a religion of hatred and violence. The only thing I disagree with is the motivation to do this - if he is just in this for publicity as opposed to taking a stand against islam and its ridiculous demands then I don't support him, but I still support the image of the Qu'ran burning - being an antithiest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [Jay] View Post
    Taking your opinion into account I'm assuming you know both the Christian religion and Muslim religion very well?
    I don't see how Islam can be a bad system when the teaching are very similar to that of the Christian religion?
    I don't even get the point your trying to make, apart from wanting to star a religious war and end the Muslim religion which would only occur in a bad action film.
    Funnily enough I know enough to hate both and know that Christianity is the lesser of 2 evils. Sure they touch a few boys here and they're but at least they're not stoning women to death for sleeping around a bit.

    WHICH LEADS ME ONTO MY NEXT POINT (No it doesn't)

    Quote Originally Posted by [Jay] View Post
    Freedom of speach and free will have limits....You cannot say he has the right to do that because of free will?
    Thats like saying a murderer is right to kill someone because he has free will?
    What is morally right and wrong doesn't come into free will at all. Free will is the ability to do anything for any reason and also not act on instinct. We have this will, there are no limits on it, anyone could kill anyone at any time for any reason, and it happens all the time. It has no limits. Morals do.

    As for freedom of speech, the USA are a prime example of what true freedom of speech is: the right to say what you want for whatever reason you want.

    Call someone a wop? Fine. Call someone a spic? Fine. Insult someone because they're gay? Fine. Insult someone based on anything about them? Fine.
    The UK and EU don't have freedom of speech. The USA does.

    Which leads me onto my next point...

    Quote Originally Posted by [Jay] View Post
    When people say free will and freedom of speach they dont mean that to be 100% true, theres limits. If evryone did what they liked then the world would be in chaos, thats why there are laws.
    Laws are a guideline. They do not force you to abide them which is why murderers, child rapists and people named Keith are still able to roam the streets.

    Quote Originally Posted by [Jay] View Post
    If you think about it there is no reason at all why he should do this, also its funny because his a priest but does it not say on the bible to treat evryone the same, respect thier beliefs and not be prejudice? If he does do it then he should be heald responsible for the aftermath.
    No it doesn't. It promotes inequality and bias, just as most theistic religions do.

    [Note: To anyone going to infract me for "racism" go away, I am using it as an example and mean no offence.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by [Jay] View Post
    Taking your opinion into account I'm assuming you know both the Christian religion and Muslim religion very well?
    I don't see how Islam can be a bad system when the teaching are very similar to that of the Christian religion?
    I don't even get the point your trying to make, apart from wanting to star a religious war and end the Muslim religion which would only occur in a bad action film.
    Funnily enough I know enough to hate both and know that Christianity is the lesser of 2 evils. Sure they touch a few boys here and they're but at least they're not stoning women to death for sleeping around a bit.

    WHICH LEADS ME ONTO MY NEXT POINT (No it doesn't)

    Quote Originally Posted by [Jay] View Post
    Freedom of speach and free will have limits....You cannot say he has the right to do that because of free will?
    Thats like saying a murderer is right to kill someone because he has free will?
    What is morally right and wrong doesn't come into free will at all. Free will is the ability to do anything for any reason and also not act on instinct. We have this will, there are no limits on it, anyone could kill anyone at any time for any reason, and it happens all the time. It has no limits. Morals do.

    As for freedom of speech, the USA are a prime example of what true freedom of speech is: the right to say what you want for whatever reason you want.

    Call someone a wop? Fine. Call someone a spic? Fine. Insult someone because they're gay? Fine. Insult someone based on anything about them? Fine.
    The UK and EU don't have freedom of speech. The USA does.

    Which leads me onto my next point...

    Quote Originally Posted by [Jay] View Post
    When people say free will and freedom of speach they dont mean that to be 100% true, theres limits. If evryone did what they liked then the world would be in chaos, thats why there are laws.
    Laws are a guideline. They do not force you to abide them which is why murderers, child rapists and people named Keith are still able to roam the streets.

    Quote Originally Posted by [Jay] View Post
    If you think about it there is no reason at all why he should do this, also its funny because his a priest but does it not say on the bible to treat evryone the same, respect thier beliefs and not be prejudice? If he does do it then he should be heald responsible for the aftermath.
    No it doesn't. It promotes inequality and bias, just as most theistic religions do.

    [Note: To anyone going to infract me for "racism" go away, I am using it as an example and mean no offence.]


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    Quote Originally Posted by Agnostic Bear View Post
    Funnily enough I know enough to hate both and know that Christianity is the lesser of 2 evils. Sure they touch a few boys here and they're but at least they're not stoning women to death for sleeping around a bit.
    Christianity is definitely worse if you include a bit of history. The amount of bloodshed over christianity is something muslims can only ever dream of.

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    People are talking freedom about right?

    Fine.. I will stand UP and BURN THE BIBLE & Torah. Who's coming to stop me?

    Who ever said in this whole thread that it's fine to burn any religious book are totally disgusting!

    And WHAT PROOF does ANYONE have muslims did the twin towers?

    Funny how NOT EVEN ONE JEWISH member went work that day?

    Freedom of speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wig44. View Post
    Christianity is definitely worse if you include a bit of history. The amount of bloodshed over christianity is something muslims can only ever dream of.
    I don't think You will find this in Christianity :

    Stoning women if they have ANY kind of affairs with men after marriage
    1000 lashes If they don't follow Purdah rule ( Not showing face in Public)
    Killing 1,000 Hindus , Jews and Christians together in a train

    Yes , Christians in medieval times massacred a lot of jews , They were , at that point of time , seen as Monsters . Now , most people consider Muslims like this.

    The fact is , RELIGION ISN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS! . The fake Islam Institutions come up with this Idea , Koran never tells you to beat up a woman , Koran never tells you to kill thousands of people .


    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-VisualVPS View Post
    People are talking freedom about right?

    Fine.. I will stand UP and BURN THE BIBLE & Torah. Who's coming to stop me?

    Who ever said in this whole thread that it's fine to burn any religious book are totally disgusting!

    And WHAT PROOF does ANYONE have muslims did the twin towers?

    Funny how NOT EVEN ONE JEWISH member went work that day?

    Freedom of speech.
    The crisis in Aghanistan , Pakistan and Iraq is just because the fact that they have enough PROOF that tells that only Talibani Muslims did this.
    That's why they are finding Osama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kartikeya View Post
    I don't think You will find this in Christianity :

    Stoning women if they have ANY kind of affairs with men after marriage
    1000 lashes If they don't follow Purdah rule ( Not showing face in Public)
    Killing 1,000 Hindus , Jews and Christians together in a train

    Yes , Christians in medieval times massacred a lot of jews , They were , at that point of time , seen as Monsters . Now , most people consider Muslims like this.

    The fact is , RELIGION ISN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS! . The fake Islam Institutions come up with this Idea , Koran never tells you to beat up a woman , Koran never tells you to kill thousands of people .




    The crisis in Aghanistan , Pakistan and Iraq is just because the fact that they have enough PROOF that tells that only Talibani Muslims did this.
    That's why they are finding Osama.
    As far as I'm concerned, the tape where Osama admitted to the twin towers was faked (and poorly done so), Al Qaeda was originally a computer database containing names of suspected terrorists and the fact that ridiculous amunts of a chemical used in demolitions called thermate was found in the wreckage (not to mention the melted steel flowing like lava in some parts even though plane fuel can't burn at a high enough temeperature to melt the steel the towers were constructed from) is enough to convince me that the trade centers were likely targetted by the US government. Only my 'ridiculous, stupid, always looking for conspiracies' opinion though. It isn't the first time the US goernment/private agencies have blamed terorrism for murder, think the 'nam war, the assasination of JFK, etc.

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