[Minecraft] Stuto's Server

[FlyingJesus]

No, they fact that 99.2% disagree makes you the odd ones out.
0.8% is kind of a small minority. Just saying.

I quite clearly understood the percentages as my point was that being in the minority does not make our opinions invalid, especially when it's the view of the majority in this case. Achievement nulled.

DKR Membership is staff invite only.
They hardly give it out.

CrazyBob's CnR, I admit, this isn't quite so hard to get regular player status.
But if you act like a male reproductive organ then you won't get it.
So clearly they disagree with you too.

That doesn't change the fact that you were a mere member. Membership of the Stuto server could be said to be the same as that because you can't do anything until moved onto the correct player status, but I don't claim to have been in charge of the server just because I could build on it

They are more different than they appear to a novice. Don't take it out on me because I know more about this.

The function is the same, which is the exact point. The difference in how they work has absolutely nothing to do with this. Achievement nulled.

Sorry, did you say you did read my posts?



How is that not admitting I was wrong?
But if you really want me to describe it as a mistake then sure!


I must of clearly not read your post correctly.
In the event that you do not understand what I am talking about I shall dumb it down.
The inaccurate description confused me! I made a mistake!

In both of these you make the excuse that it's my fault that you got it wrong somehow (as you're still doing), so no I don't take that as an admission at all. Achievements nulled.

That was a mistake on my part. I totally admit I was wrong about it.

That's all I was looking for on this point - not excuses that blame us for apparently not being clever enough to look for alternatives to things that don't work.

As I said, which you failed to read... again, I simply do that as it is fun.
This is the reason Fail Blog works.
In no way do I need to be backed up by followers. We just enjoy laughing at you looking like an idiot.
Due to your moronically low understanding I feel the need to dumb it down even more...
:dance::dance::dance::dance:I DUZ 4 DA LULZ1!11!!:dance::dance::dance::dance:

You do realise you've not actually proved me wrong on anything... right? Not sure what you have to laugh at when post after post you're showing yourself to be the one in the wrong. I'll let you give me an achievement here if it makes you smile that much, because I accept that I didn't merely repeat what you said and instead interpreted it a different way - somewhat like you with the flying situation, shock

Wow!
You still put the blame on ME because YOU destroyed peoples stuff?
I am so sorry for forcing you to click the mouse.
And you claim me to be the immature one?

You're the one blaming our apparent stupidity for you making wrong assumptions... I accept that I'm the one who caused the damage but yes, it was a reaction against you. I'm not claiming a moral high ground about it as that would be ridiculous, but the only case of true griefing I can of on the server that wasn't a response to you personally was Apple putting a couple of lava blocks in Graham's house after we used his house as a starting point for setting fire to the village, which hardly counts as it was going to burn anyway. Also no I didn't say you were immature, never actually said anything of the sort. I'm not gonna make fun little pictures about it but congratulations on putting words into my mouth. Achievement nulled.

Also, poor handling of members?
Such as taking action against someone being bullied about their weight?
More people have committed suicide over internet bulling than people just being annoying.
I am not saying anyone here would feel the need to go that far, just showing how it is not acceptable.
I have no idea why that even caused such a big argument originally anyway.

I accept this award happily as yes, I do disagree with your anti-bullying views. The action taken was not appropriate for the situation, especially considering the "victim" was the original aggressor in destroying my building (albeit accidentally) and then refusing to do anything to help, which is why it went that far as well you know.

Examples please?

lol

Ermm, let me quote the exact same sentence...



I have know Tom for years and I did apologise both in game and on MSN.
And I believe I did apologise for the /eb crashes... despite the fact that it wasn't my wrong doing - just bad luck.
I also spent lots of time trying to sort that problem before I found cuboid.

You clearly do not understand the principles behind a real apology. My sentence was not contradictory as the point was that even when you admit to the act, you make excuses and defer all blame away from yourself, as you've just done again. My 2nd burning down of the village (the bit where I dug under your building to do it) was "bad luck" as I wasn't planning for it to actually go forward at that point in time, I was merely trying to set it up for any future need, therefore by your logic it's not my fault. Nice one, achievement nulled.

[CECER1]

I quite clearly understood the percentages as my point was that being in the minority does not make our opinions invalid, especially when it's the view of the majority in this case. Achievement nulled.

Your view is the majority? I'll just award you a new achievement.

Besides, it doesn't make your opinions invalid - it makes them the minority.
And considering the size of the majority against you, I would consider in the whole I am a decent person.

That doesn't change the fact that you were a mere member. Membership of the Stuto server could be said to be the same as that because you can't do anything until moved onto the correct player status, but I don't claim to have been in charge of the server just because I could build on it .

As I said, this wasn't about my powers but about how I was seen.
And being a member on DKR gives me quite a lot more than others.
http://dkrclan.com/?p=members
See for you self - Not exactly the thousands that go on it. And about a third of those are staff too.
You are not getting that a Member is not a mere member but a higher rank than guest.
I have been trusted with it and they haven't regretted it.

The function is the same, which is the exact point. The difference in how they work has absolutely nothing to do with this. Achievement nulled.

It may be the same to you, but it isn't to me.
Them working differently has everything to do with this as I took that into consideration when (unconsciously) making the decision.

In both of these you make the excuse that it's my fault that you got it wrong somehow (as you're still doing), so no I don't take that as an admission at all. Achievements nulled.

I never said it was anyone's fault. If anyone's to blame it would be Dan due to not given a accurate description because he wasn't aware that it was different. But it is not his fault!
I know I said I would drop this part but I feel we are making headway now.

History Of This Argument

• Stuto: "Coming soon: Flying mod."
• Me: "That Flying Mod was client side, how do you plan on adding it?"
• Verrou: "So if the flying boat this is client side, can we install it and use it? Or what...I don't understand, because the demo video of it is filmed on a SMP server..."
• FlyingJesus: "Also: SMP flying mod"
• Me: "Well that flyRidgeFly is not a mod, it is a plugin. That is what confused me. And I already had it on my test list."
• FlyingJesus: "As for the flying thing, if you already had it in your test list why were you trying to be smug saying it's client side only and won't work? Or to go from the other angle, if you really believe it wouldn't work why was it in your test list? You can't claim that it being a different type of addition really threw you off that much, surely"
• Me: <DetailedDescriptionOfTheDifference> "So yes, I can quite fairly explain how I was mistaken."
• FlyingJesus: "I would seriously worry about my brain capacity if I had to focus so meticulously on such distinctions before being able to work out a very simple answer and instead would claim something can't be done knowing full well that it can"
• Me: <VeryDetailedDescriptionOfTheDifferenceWITHColourC oding> "Are you seriously saying I am of lower intelligence because I know the difference between the a mod and a plugin?"
• FlyingJesus: "Nope. Not what I said"
• Me: "Remember that I had just explained that a mod and a plugin at different. You then proceeded to reply with: <Red Quote> Now the fact that they are very different is clear to me - I didn't even have to think about it. Please explain any reason that I would of had to think it was not the boat mod?"
• FlyingJesus: "Because you knew there were others :S anyway I'm just repeating myself now and you'll still not getting it, so as Dan requested I'm stopping it here"
• Me: <YetAnotherDetailedDescriptionOfTheDifferenceWithB ulletPoints>
• FlyingJesus: <ExampleWithWalkingOnHotCoals>

When at any point did I blame anyone else for me misunderstanding? Nowhere! I simply explained why I had misunderstood.

That's all I was looking for on this point - not excuses that blame us for apparently not being clever enough to look for alternatives to things that don't work.

You Just quote mined me:

Real Quote:

Sorry about overestimating your level of common sense.
That was a mistake on my part. I totally admit I was wrong about it.
I clearly lacked the brain capacity to see that you and my radiator are more closely related than I thought.

Despite the quote mining fail


I will reply as if you meant to quote:

The inaccurate description confused me! I made a mistake!

As said above, I never blamed anyone.

So yes, I can quite fairly explain how I was mistaken.

And if that was all you was looking for then why did you moan at me about it for FOUR more replies?!

You do realise you've not actually proved me wrong on anything... right?

Well, taking the above (real) quote and my reply as an example I would come to the conclusion that you did not read my posts like you claimed to.
There for I did in fact prove you wrong.

Not sure what you have to laugh at when post after post you're showing yourself to be the one in the wrong.

See above. This is why we all laugh about it.

I accept that I'm the one who caused the damage but yes, it was a reaction against you.

Then you sir are clearly in the wrong!
It is pointless including other peoples actions as it was their choice, not mine.
If they had a problem with me they should of just left and complained here.

I'm not claiming a moral high ground about it as that would be ridiculous, but the only case of true griefing I can of on the server that wasn't a response to you personally was Apple

That is still shifting the blame to me though.

I accept this award happily as yes, I do disagree with your anti-bullying views. The action taken was not appropriate for the situation,

The action was building powers disabled as a punishment (see below).
I then found out there was a mute command so that was used instead.
How is muting the person not an acceptable response to chat based bullying?

Here is an MSN chat log:

(17:56) Cecer: Dan
(17:57) Cecer has changed his/her status to Busy
(18:00) Dan | Meh. is now Offline
(19:52) Dan | Meh. : going for dinner in a mo
(19:52) Cecer: Well
(19:52) Cecer: Do you agree that Tom is out of order?
(19:52) Cecer: Aswell as flicker
(19:52) Dan | Meh. : do temp suspend or something
(19:53) Cecer: Flicker too?
(19:53) Dan | Meh. : your call
(19:53) Cecer: You are happy that it is fair though?
(19:53) Dan | Meh. : hmm
(19:53) Dan | Meh. : lets say until next server up... tomorrow

especially considering the "victim" was the original aggressor in destroying my building (albeit accidentally)

That doesn't make constant weight insults acceptable or even relevant.
A lot of damage was repaired and an apology of the bullying was refused to be given.

and then refusing to do anything to help, which is why it went that far as well you know.

No evidence, no punishment. This is how justice is.
You can't exactly take it out on me because BlockLogger had unknowingly failed... WHICH I FIXED!

lol

You clearly do not understand the principles behind a real apology. My sentence was not contradictory as the point was that even when you admit to the act, you make excuses and defer all blame away from yourself, as you've just done again. My 2nd burning down of the village (the bit where I dug under your building to do it) was "bad luck" as I wasn't planning for it to actually go forward at that point in time, I was merely trying to set it up for any future need, therefore by your logic it's not my fault. Nice one, achievement nulled.

Oh wait...

Sorry, my mistake. I got confused by you seemingly thinking you know everything about me.

[Stephen]

at first i thought you were trolling
and then i stopped reading the long posts so it can't be trolling
so i ended up like this :BangHead:

[Oleh]

Ok im going to add my 2 pence and continue with normal thread goings on:

The action taken was not appropriate for the situation, especially considering the "victim" was the original aggressor in destroying my building (albeit accidentally) and then refusing to do anything to help, which is why it went that far as well you know.

i know this is me, i didn't refuse to help i merely declined until apologies were offered which never came because your blatent misrepresentation of accidents.

Just to clear things up, i fixed the forest and iirc i got an apology. You didnt apologise so i did nothing towards the nature of helping you.

[Verrou]

Can someone lock this thread...it's getting ridiculous.

[Nemo]

Looks like CreeperCraft dodged a bullet

[Josh]

lol i've stopped reading cecer's posts now because it's simply mocking and targeting us with those achievement things

[giltinux]

wat game is that

[Jahova]

lol i've stopped reading cecer's posts now because it's simply mocking and targeting us with those achievement things

He's only aiming them at FlyingJesus from what I can see..

[Verrou]

I never read any of them because it's a waste of time.