Tea Partier Rand Paul and others storm to victory as Obama loses control of the House

[Jordy]

Hmm health-care is one of Obama's successes if anything I think? It was firmly part of his policy when trying to get elected and he managed to push it through I believe despite the struggles?

Not too sure about the rest of Obama's term as I don't follow American politics but he seems to of ****** up when it comes to Afghanistan and closing Guantanamo bay. I personally don't like him as his administration refused to back us over the Falklands issue last year.

[MrPinkPanther]

Those who are saying "Obama hasn't done anything" need to look into the American political system. Essentially you're right but it's not his fault. Compared to the UK the US is extremely slow in debating and enacting legislation, in fact thats why the first 100 days of a Presidential rule are seen as so pivotal because often the more controversial legislation proposed in the first 100 days won't get enacted until shortly before the next election. Look at what Obama has tried to do, he's tried to introduce a national health care system into America, thats huge. Five years ago that would have been political suicide because it's supposedly "socialist and evil" and yet somehow he's remained relatively popular even after he proposed it. Obama was never going to be able to live up to the hype and I honestly think that so far he hasn't done too badly, not amazing but not bad either.

[-:Undertaker:-]

The problem with the Tea Party is that it is in danger of being hijacked by people such as Sarah Palin who (as far as I know) had no problems with the debt run up by the George W Bush administration. Ron Paul is the godfather of the movement, and hopefully it will achieve something.

But if this is the chance and the movement to change America then i'm all for it.

[MrPinkPanther]

Ron Paul is the godfather of the movement, and hopefully it will achieve something.

Hes a douche. He called Bruno queer.

[alexxxxx]

ron paul is not the 'godfather' of the tea party movement at all. In fact recently he's come out against certain elements of it - ie the old faces of the republican party are coming in and essentially killing off the 'ideals' of it.

that's the real problem with the 'tea party' - it's not old enough, or strong enough in its leadership (which is understandable seeing as it is really a movement). I also think that a large amount of its supporters are misinformed and some of the money behind it makes it less of a 'grassroots' movement than it is meant to be. Fox News TV Channel is basically Tea Party TV with it spreading hatred and misinforming the public.

[Eoin247]

According to forbes Barack Obama is no longer the most powerful man in the world as a result of this. Chinas leader seems to be the most powerful man now, however america still has the mightiest military power.

[-:Undertaker:-]

ron paul is not the 'godfather' of the tea party movement at all. In fact recently he's come out against certain elements of it - ie the old faces of the republican party are coming in and essentially killing off the 'ideals' of it.

that's the real problem with the 'tea party' - it's not old enough, or strong enough in its leadership (which is understandable seeing as it is really a movement). I also think that a large amount of its supporters are misinformed and some of the money behind it makes it less of a 'grassroots' movement than it is meant to be. Fox News TV Channel is basically Tea Party TV with it spreading hatred and misinforming the public.

Ron Paul was the godfather of the movement along with the Campaign for Liberty and its stemmed from him, although people like Palin are now jumping on the bandwagon. As for Fox News it's only the neocon equivalent of the BBC. In terms of the Tea Party, I don't see any hatred being spread - you get bad eggs in all walks of life, its no reason to brand the entire Tea Party as a bunch of backward nutcases.

The difference with the Tea Party now, it appears (as Ron Paul says) as though the liberal interventioist-neocons have taken over the movement to squash any threat to them in the Republican Party from the likes of the Libertarian section. I suppose you could compare to the Conservative Party over here is a way, with Camerons interventions in the candidate shortlist selection.

[MrPinkPanther]

As for Fox News it's only the neocon equivalent of the BBC.

It's NOTHING like the BBC. Whether or not you like it the BBC is one of the most impartial media outlets in the world, you frequently quote the Daily Mail so I don't think you can win any awards for impartiality. Look at what Fox News does, it ran several weeks of coverage on Obamas middle name, why? It's Hussein, you know, like Saddam. Its absolutely ridiculous that they were trying to affiliate Obama with one of Americas biggest enemies and a tyrannical leader. You say the BBC is bias against UKIP and other parties like that. If Farages middle name was "Adolf" do you honestly believe that the BBC would run several weeks of news advertising it?

[-:Undertaker:-]

It's NOTHING like the BBC. Whether or not you like it the BBC is one of the most impartial media outlets in the world, you frequently quote the Daily Mail so I don't think you can win any awards for impartiality. Look at what Fox News does, it ran several weeks of coverage on Obamas middle name, why? It's Hussein, you know, like Saddam. Its absolutely ridiculous that they were trying to affiliate Obama with one of Americas biggest enemies and a tyrannical leader. You say the BBC is bias against UKIP and other parties like that. If Farages middle name was "Adolf" do you honestly believe that the BBC would run several weeks of news advertising it?

The BBC is not impartial whatsoever. I quote the Daily Mail with the knowledge that it is biased, I like what the Mail has to say - I don't like what the BBC has to say considering the BBC is run on a tax called the license fee and has an unfair monopoly over television. In regards to the BBC and UKIP, they've done things like that very much so - I remember I was watching around election time and they were at Buckingham where Farage was holding a conference, the reporter brought up the BNP even though the BNP had nothing to do with it.

Another example arose only a few weeks ago in regards to BBC Question Time; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ment-cuts.html

'After the audience grilling, a BBC producer was overheard telling Sir Richard Dannatt, a panellist and the former head of the Army, that the show was held in Middlesbrough because the audience would be the most hostile to the cuts.'

A few months ago the BBC also admitted something that people along the lines of yourself denied for years, that the BBC was biased towards the Thatcher Ministry while it was in office; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...lean-Left.html

One other example would be the constant 'Tory CUTS' - it was never 'Labour WASTE' now was it?

Lord Pearson also runs a thinktank, Global Britain which you'll find examples listed also on that; http://www.globalbritain.org/BBC.asp

So let's stop bashing Fox News and look a little closer to home.

[alexxxxx]

It's NOTHING like the BBC. Whether or not you like it the BBC is one of the most impartial media outlets in the world, you frequently quote the Daily Mail so I don't think you can win any awards for impartiality. Look at what Fox News does, it ran several weeks of coverage on Obamas middle name, why? It's Hussein, you know, like Saddam. Its absolutely ridiculous that they were trying to affiliate Obama with one of Americas biggest enemies and a tyrannical leader. You say the BBC is bias against UKIP and other parties like that. If Farages middle name was "Adolf" do you honestly believe that the BBC would run several weeks of news advertising it?

yeah i agree. BBC does not tie-in big egos who present opinionated programs as factual. it's unreal.