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    Obama is very much the JFK of this generation - style over substance. This is why I supported Hillary Clinton back when the Democrats were picking their nomination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo13. View Post
    Obama is very much the JFK of this generation - style over substance. This is why I supported Hillary Clinton back when the Democrats were picking their nomination.
    Exactly, I said before he was elected he'd be a similar president to JFK for style over substance. What worries me though is that JFK is considered a great president whilst he achieved very little in 2 years in power mainly just because of his style and assassination. I do hope Obama won't be remembered as a great president purely because of his style and the fact he is black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    Exactly, I said before he was elected he'd be a similar president to JFK for style over substance. What worries me though is that JFK is considered a great president whilst he achieved very little in 2 years in power mainly just because of his style and assassination. I do hope Obama won't be remembered as a great president purely because of his style and the fact he is black.
    He'll be remembered for defying the beliefs of many. But JFK was a great President on home affairs - internationally he was a joke. Obama is the other way round - home affairs he's messed up pretty big time, but internationally he's done well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0BB13G View Post
    He'll be remembered for defying the beliefs of many. But JFK was a great President on home affairs - internationally he was a joke. Obama is the other way round - home affairs he's messed up pretty big time, but internationally he's done well.
    How so, what's he achieved on an international scale? He's hopeless at trying to solve the Middle East crisis seeing as he supports Israel. Until the Americans stop supporting Israel there will forever be unrest in the Middle East.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    How so, what's he achieved on an international scale? He's hopeless at trying to solve the Middle East crisis seeing as he supports Israel. Until the Americans stop supporting Israel there will forever be unrest in the Middle East.
    He's made international relations much better between USA & several other countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0BB13G View Post
    He's made international relations much better between USA & several other countries.
    Which countries are these?

    I'd say UK-US relations have deteriorated under Obama for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    Which countries are these?

    I'd say UK-US relations have deteriorated under Obama for instance.
    US-Russia to name one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo13. View Post
    Obama is very much the JFK of this generation - style over substance. This is why I supported Hillary Clinton back when the Democrats were picking their nomination.
    Spot on here, +rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0BB13G View Post
    But JFK was a great President on home affairs - internationally he was a joke.
    It's actually the other way round. It's strongly believed by many historians that JKF was far too pre-occupied with foreign affairs and as a result, his domestic policy failed. JFK in reality, didn't have the ability to take on the House of Representatives. At the time of his presidency, whilst the Democrats had a majority in the House, it was very conservative, as there JFK was being propped up by conservative southern Democrats - alot of the laws he wanted to pass were opposed by them, and without the support of the southern Democrats, it would of been very difficult for JKF to be elected for a second term (although obviously, JFK didn't live long enough)
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