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    Quote Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx View Post
    He does actually hate cloud computing, well he doesn't like it at this moment in time either way.
    Yeh don't you just hate being able to access your email anywhere? :rolleyes:

    Somehow I'm thinking he's trying to court controversy rather than actually disliking cloud computing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPinkPanther View Post
    Yeh don't you just hate being able to access your email anywhere? :rolleyes:

    Somehow I'm thinking he's trying to court controversy rather than actually disliking cloud computing.
    Pretty odd to cause controversy over that. Doesn't cloud computing cover more than email anyway? I need to look into this as it seems to of come from no where :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    Doesn't cloud computing cover more than email anyway? I need to look into this as it seems to of come from no where :/
    Yeh, it's such a wide area that it's naive to say "you don't like it". I was just pointing out how arguably the most powerful communication tool in the world is a form of cloud computing, well, at least Google Mail, Hotmail etc are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    Pretty odd to cause controversy over that. Doesn't cloud computing cover more than email anyway? I need to look into this as it seems to of come from no where :/
    Think of it this way, all/most of our files at the moment are stored on our computer. Imagine them being in a cloud and then we just use the computer connected to the cloud to get access to such files. I think that's one way of using cloud? I'm sure Tom will explain himself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    Pretty odd to cause controversy over that. Doesn't cloud computing cover more than email anyway? I need to look into this as it seems to of come from no where :/
    It does but webmail is the most obvious and used form of cloud computing email is cloud computing when you access it within the browser, if you're using POP3, IMAP, Outlook, MS Exchange to access your emails you're downloading them to your HDD so it isn't cloud computing.

    It's essentially things on the Internet you don't have to download to your computer to access. Spotify for instance can be considered cloud computing as you don't download the songs on to your computer, you stream them off the Internet. Or technically you stream them from the 'cloud'.

    It's likely that in a few years, core parts of the OS will be on the cloud. For instance you'll store your files and apps online. That website which let's you stream games is another good example (I forget it's name).
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    I don't think of email as cloud computing really, but I suppose it is. What I don't like is the idea of an OS storing all your personal files and applications on the internet (like Chrome OS and as the rumours are saying is the case with Windows 8 or the one after), personally I draw the line at e-mail and Dropbox (for quick file uploads that I do want to access anywhere). Spotify is a good example, yes it's cloud computing, but buy Premium and you have the ability to store the files offline.

    I don't want to have to rely on having a constant, always on connection on my laptop for example, it's a fact that it's not extremely reliable and whilst it may become more reliable in the future, I still don't want to rely on it. And how long will it be before we start seeing people discover security flaws in cloud systems? When they do, they'll have access to everything. The idea of security being out of my control is just... not nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recursion View Post
    I don't think of email as cloud computing really, but I suppose it is. What I don't like is the idea of an OS storing all your personal files and applications on the internet (like Chrome OS and as the rumours are saying is the case with Windows 8 or the one after), personally I draw the line at e-mail and Dropbox (for quick file uploads that I do want to access anywhere). Spotify is a good example, yes it's cloud computing, but buy Premium and you have the ability to store the files offline.

    I don't want to have to rely on having a constant, always on connection on my laptop for example, it's a fact that it's not extremely reliable and whilst it may become more reliable in the future, I still don't want to rely on it. And how long will it be before we start seeing people discover security flaws in cloud systems? When they do, they'll have access to everything. The idea of security being out of my control is just... not nice.
    The constant connection is definitely an issue yes, however security is no more of an issue than it currently is. There's flaws to find in browsers and operating systems which could open up all your files to hackers. Of course it's unlikely but it's just as possible as it happening whilst cloud computing. Unless you disconnect from the Internet you'll never be truly secure. Plus I have emails which are far more sensitive than any files including very personal things, access to online banking, workplaces, facebook etc, I trust Google with my emails so trusting them with files is no bigger deal.

    Email isn't cloud computing unless you're viewing it in your browser really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    It does but webmail is the most obvious and used form of cloud computing email is cloud computing when you access it within the browser, if you're using POP3, IMAP, Outlook, MS Exchange to access your emails you're downloading them to your HDD so it isn't cloud computing.

    It's essentially things on the Internet you don't have to download to your computer to access. Spotify for instance can be considered cloud computing as you don't download the songs on to your computer, you stream them off the Internet. Or technically you stream them from the 'cloud'.

    It's likely that in a few years, core parts of the OS will be on the cloud. For instance you'll store your files and apps online. That website which let's you stream games is another good example (I forget it's name).
    Is the "cloud" label new? It all of a sudden appeared, yet Google Mail, Steam and a few other programs, have existed for years. It's very strange

    Also, isn't cloud computing anything you use that isn't stored on your computer? So going on GoogleTalk/Gmail/Outlook to view your emails seems like a sort of cloud computing, as the emails aren't physically stored on the computer. Basically Google (Docs, Mail, Calendar etc.), Live/MSN and so forth.

    I can see why people may be a bit annoyed by the idea of an OS relying on a connection though, I prefer keeping my information to myself. A HDD was built for a reason. They should keep a happy balance, rather than over advertise the "cloud".

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    Don't know too much about technical stuff but I like Microsoft. Windows 7 is great, especially from moving from Vista.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum. View Post
    Don't know too much about technical stuff but I like Microsoft. Windows 7 is great, especially from moving from Vista.
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