French Burka Ban comes into force

[Suspective]

If I was to go out in a balaclava I would be arrested most likely. No one should have to deal with faceless figures walking down the street wondering who is under there. One of them sat about 2 rows down from me on a plane journey last christmas and I was genuinely terrified, simply because there was one passenger on the plane that could have been anybody.

I know she was HOPEFULLY screened and assessed beforehand, but it was really frightening.

I'm sure I would of been to. Its not the fact they are Muslim either, its just because you cannot see them and it gives you a peace of mind if you can see the person. They are only banning two forms of head garnets, which conceal the whole head. Muslims have more than one time of head gear/veil and I'm sure they can wear another type.

I don't see it as a big problem, its just allowing everyone in society to be able to see and interact with each other more easily.

[Mathew]

I do find this quite depressing when something like this is banned. The Burka, just like many other iconic items throughout the world, goes back centuries and it seems such a shame to ban something which has happened for so long; all in the name of the modern world and security.

However, I do support the ban and I do think it should be implemented in the UK. If people can't wear hoodies / balaclavas in public then I think it's silly that Muslim women should be allowed to wear the burka. Obviously though, the UK is far too liberal and try to please everyone. It's silly because we try so hard to avoid being racist to people.. that we just end up being racist to ourselves; and that is where the problem lies with many of the messed up laws and opinions in this country.

Yeah I agree. Ban the burka or lift the ban on other face items.

[Rozi]

I think people ignore a hugely important factor when they talk about the burka ban, and the possibility of it in this country. England is a country that fully embraces multi-culturalism and endorses it, but France takes the view that if you want to live in their country, you have to live like the majority of the culture there. This means they have no faith schools and no religious symbols are allowed in schools (including crosses, turbans etc).

I personally believe that a ban on the burka is wrong, repressing freedom of expression etc but does tie in with the kind of society France wants. The ban on the burka could not, and never would, happen here unless we have a complete policy U-turn.

I believe that in some situations the burka has no place, in banks and other such places where identification is required, but the right to wear it should never be revoked in our society.

[jackass]

I am all for this. I seriously hope it comes into action here in the UK. It could be anyone behind that veil!

[Fez]

I do find this quite depressing when something like this is banned. The Burka, just like many other iconic items throughout the world, goes back centuries and it seems such a shame to ban something which has happened for so long; all in the name of the modern world and security.

However, I do support the ban and I do think it should be implemented in the UK. If people can't wear hoodies / balaclavas in public then I think it's silly that Muslim women should be allowed to wear the burka. Obviously though, the UK is far too liberal and try to please everyone. It's silly because we try so hard to avoid being racist to people.. that we just end up being racist to ourselves; and that is where the problem lies with many of the messed up laws and opinions in this country.

Yeah I agree. Ban the burka or lift the ban on other face items.

Sorry but... you're depressed when something like this is banned in the name of security, but you happily support a ban in the name of security?

[The Don]

It's not actually part of the religion to wear them, it's just enforced by the men.

[Mathew]

Sorry but... you're depressed when something like this is banned in the name of security, but you happily support a ban in the name of security?

Hence why I've given two lines of thought to this matter.

It's quite upsetting to know that years of tradition is going down the drain thanks to the modern world. But then upon closer inspection, it really is for the best because of the current bans on balaclavas (and bee-keepers helmets apparently ).

[-:Undertaker:-]

I think people ignore a hugely important factor when they talk about the burka ban, and the possibility of it in this country. England is a country that fully embraces multi-culturalism and endorses it, but France takes the view that if you want to live in their country, you have to live like the majority of the culture there. This means they have no faith schools and no religious symbols are allowed in schools (including crosses, turbans etc).

I personally believe that a ban on the burka is wrong, repressing freedom of expression etc but does tie in with the kind of society France wants. The ban on the burka could not, and never would, happen here unless we have a complete policy U-turn.

I believe that in some situations the burka has no place, in banks and other such places where identification is required, but the right to wear it should never be revoked in our society.

Who endorses multi-culturalism? the politicians? certainly not the people. Multi-culturalism is often confused with multi-racialism, for the definition and the topic explained very well by Douglas Murray see the video from 1:35 to 3:55;



I certainly oppose multi-culturalism and I suspect a fairly large majority do, even those who are intially supporters of the policy (due to its pandering, inclusive-sounding name) I suspect would reconsider after hearing the true meaning and implications of multi-culturalism which Murray explains rather well in the video above.

[Rozi]

It's not actually part of the religion to wear them, it's just enforced by the men.

ahaha god this is SUCH a lie. Yes, maybe some Muslim women who don't want to wear the burka or a headscarf are forced to, but I've spoken to many Muslim girls my age about wearing a headscarf, and whether they'd want to wear a burka and every single response has been the same: that they do it because they WANT to and have considered wearing a burka out of choice. One of my close Muslim friends went to a predominantly Muslim college because she wanted to wear a burka somewhere where she felt others would understand her choice.

[-:Undertaker:-]

ahaha god this is SUCH a lie. Yes, maybe some Muslim women who don't want to wear the burka or a headscarf are forced to, but I've spoken to many Muslim girls my age about wearing a headscarf, and whether they'd want to wear a burka and every single response has been the same: that they do it because they WANT to and have considered wearing a burka out of choice. One of my close Muslim friends went to a predominantly Muslim college because she wanted to wear a burka somewhere where she felt others would understand her choice.

But would you or she be accepting of the choice of say a shop owner who did not want the burka worn on his premises?