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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    And EU federalists go around saying how our nation is nothing, has no future and that we should submit to a European superstate - many may find that offensive, if not downright totalitarian. So why is it that we can ban one viewpoint, but not the other viewpoint? All your argument hands upon is 'its offensive and unmentionable' - the same can be said for many other opinions, so again, why not ban them?
    Well if you can't see the difference then we will have to agree to disagree because there is a chasm between the these groups. You may find their views offensive but they do not attack and verbally abuse a vast proportion of our population. That is the difference - different opinons as opposed to personal attacks.
    You are doing it again, pretending it is not a human being when it is one.


    You dehumanise it in order to kill it.
    I find this comment offensive, Dan and no I don't want you banned. I don't pretend anything. It is not a human being as classified by the law and I will not be oppressed by emotional blackmail by those who seek to say it is. These groups should try to get the definition changed instead of trying to harrass ordinary people.

    I'm asking for clarification.
    The rules clarify what is suitable and appropropriate for posting on the forum image wise remembering we have younger members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catzsy View Post
    Well if you can't see the difference then we will have to agree to disagree because there is a chasm between the these groups. You may find their views offensive but they do not attack and verbally abuse a vast proportion of our population. That is the difference - different opinons as opposed to personal attacks.
    For years we (the right wing) been called little Englanders, xenophobes and racists by the establishment for warning of the Euro and the European Union and what they would lead to. We took it on the chin mainly because we had to, but because many of us have a deep deep respect for the liberty of free speech. All words are just that, words. Any law or government who seemingly claim to protect people from having their feelings hurt are acting way out of their mandate and should be opposed by anybody who approves of free thinking, free thought and free expression.

    In the words of Volitare "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it".

    Quote Originally Posted by Catzsy
    I find this comment offensive, Dan and no I don't want you banned. I don't pretend anything. It is not a human being as classified by the law and I will not be oppressed by emotional blackmail by those who seek to say it is. These groups should try to get the definition changed instead of trying to harrass ordinary people.
    A politicians' response, i'm not talking about the law as it stands - I am talking about what it [a child with human DNA] is, a human being.
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    Thats ridiculous and soooo disrespectful. I am all for them being banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    For years we (the right wing) been called little Englanders, xenophobes and racists by the establishment for warning of the Euro and the European Union and what they would lead to. We took it on the chin mainly because we had to, but because many of us have a deep deep respect for the liberty of free speech. All words are just that, words. Any law or government who seemingly claim to protect people from having their feelings hurt are acting way out of their mandate and should be opposed by anybody who approves of free thinking, free thought and free expression.

    In the words of Volitare "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it".



    A politicians' response, i'm not talking about the law as it stands - I am talking about what it [a child with human DNA] is, a human being.
    But is isn't Dan. This is just your opinion not backed by any legal precedent. End of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catzsy View Post
    But is isn't Dan. This is just your opinion not backed by any legal precedent. End of.
    The law doesn't mean anything, we all know of past regimes which ran euthanasia programmes along the same lines as we do of abortion today.

    'They're not human'


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    The law doesn't mean anything, we all know of past regimes which ran euthanasia programmes along the same lines as we do of abortion today.

    'They're not human'
    Not a dramatic, subjective post or anything. LOL

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