Notch Vs Yogscast

[Chippiewill]

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So, with this ****storm of Notch vs. Yogscast, I thought I would weigh in my own opinion on it, such that it is.
I'm not sure that an "f-bomb" is the sole reason for Notch wanting to not work with them anymore.
Yogscast was invited as a special guest to MineCon and was even given their own panel. What I assumed, and what I believed that Mojang assumed when they invited them to a panel, was that they would speak for an hour (hour and a half?) about their Youtube videos, podcasts and the like. They would talk about their experiences, making videos, how they got so popular, etc. Instead, what we seemed to get was an hour of them showing videos of popular builds done using Minecraft. A whole team was up on stage and it seemed only Simon/Lewis spoke.
In addition, the entire team acted like a group of self-entitled *****s the entire weekend. I worked as one of the volunteer staff that weekend and they demanded to be let in to the Scrolls/Cobalt play test area before the rest of the crowd was. We allowed them to enter for 5 minutes, as we were trying to keep to a schedule, but they created a big stink when they were asked to leave so the people who paid good money to come to MineCon could play the games too. They acted like they were the Kings of Minecraft simply because they are minor celebrities in the Youtube world.
Adding on to that, they offered to sign things for fans, in the same vein as Mojang did on Friday night. Mojang was highly classy. They talked to fans, signed whatever they wanted, and all of them, despite being exhausted, were always friendly to whatever fan wanted a word with them, even if it was just to send them away. They even signed more for the ones that were cut off in line Friday night on Saturday. Yogscast, on the other hand, passed out tickets to people who wanted an autograph during their own panel! When fans complained that they couldn't get an autograph, their response was along the lines of, "True fans would have skipped the panel to get the autograph."
Finally, on a more personal experience. My friends and I entered the main hall right after the Yogscast panel to get good seats for the closing ceremony. The Styrofoam sign that said "Yogscast" that was slapped over the "Activate Minecraft" sign on the lever on stage during their panel was being removed by the stage manager after their panel, presumably to be thrown away. My friend wanted the sign as a keepsake from MineCon, and the sign was given to her. After the closing ceremony, one of their members hunted us down to get back this sign. She used to be a huge Yogscast fan, but this experience has soured her.
In Short: The Yogscast team didn't appreciate the gesture that was given to them to be invited as a special panel to MineCon and they treated it with almost indifference. They acted like it was Mojang that should be appreciative of them gracing MineCon with their presence.
Notch may have blamed the fallout between Mojang and Yogscast on an "f-bomb" in front of kids, but I think it was more than just that. I think that Yogscast wasn't what they were hoping they would be. Mojang should probably have reviewed what Yogscast was going to be like more than they did, but MineCon had many issues like that. It wasn't perfect, and it was a bit sloppy, but I don't think Mojang should suffer all the blame for issues with Yogscast.
Just my two cents.
EDIT: For those of you who want proof, the only proof I have is my staff shirt. I can take a photo of it when I get home.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/co...am_at_minecon/

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Thoughts?

[xxMATTGxx]

If what Notch is saying is true then I can see why he was a bit mad at them and tweeted the first thing about not working with them in the future. Which is a great shame and they should know better. But we will also hear Yogscast version of the story once they are back in the UK.

[FlyingJesus]

Never heard of Yogscast but just looked at their first video about surviving the night etc and if they've only been doing videos since then I can't see how they can claim to be the reason Minecraft is so popular lol

[Neversoft]

http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/co...inecon/c31odgc

I bet most of what Notch is saying is just slander, based on false accusations and rumours. To call Simon and Lewis conceited and egotiscal is just preposterous. They're constantly thanking the fans and acknowledging that without them they really wouldn't be anywhere. Not to mention, they're British. I wonder just how much of this is usual British banter taken out of context.

Never heard of Yogscast but just looked at their first video about surviving the night etc and if they've only been doing videos since then I can't see how they can claim to be the reason Minecraft is so popular lol

Can't believe you've not heard of the Yogscast lol. Basically, they created a huge series-esque adventure through Minecraft, it took off and became super, super, super popular. In about two weeks they'll be the most subscribed UK channel on YouTube and their Minecraft video repertoire is absolutely huge - http://www.youtube.com/show?p=M-_uPjfjVzc&tracker=show6

You won't understand from just watching the first video. This will probably give you more of an idea of what they do.



I know everything about Minecraft and I have never even played the game. It's all from watching the Yogscast. If I were to buy the game, it would be because of them. I think it's fair to claim they're one of the reasons Minecraft took off. Notch even thanked them for the publicity in an interview they did with him a couple of days back.

[FlyingJesus]

I find it incredibly dull to watch other people playing games, especially people I don't know, so guess that's why I've never come across them. Also thanking your fans in videos is completely different to actually giving a damn about them, which the report from the person working at the convention seems to show them quite explicitly not doing

[Neversoft]

I find it incredibly dull to watch other people playing games, especially people I don't know, so guess that's why I've never come across them. Also thanking your fans in videos is completely different to actually giving a damn about them, which the report from the person working at the convention seems to show them quite explicitly not doing

False accusations and rumours.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/co...inecon/c31odgc

[xxMATTGxx]

False accusations and rumours.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/co...inecon/c31odgc

Either side could be telling lies. Unless you were there then you wouldn't really know for sure but I am interested into see what Yogscast will be saying about it all. As I do actually like their videos and stuff.

[Neversoft]

Either side could be telling lies. Unless you were there then you wouldn't really know for sure but I am interested into see what Yogscast will be saying about it all. As I do actually like their videos and stuff.

The second guy quite clearly (and reasonably) cleared up everything the first guy said. I'd rather take the word of someone who was actually around the Yogscast and knows what happened over a bystander.

[Stephen]

Did notch really think they would of meant it by the autograph **** you thing lol

They're at minecon, the minecraft convention, they're hardly gonna say that and mean it and that's if they even did say it

maybe their humour can seem abit insulting but still it's not like they went to gatecrash the party

[Neversoft]

Precisely. I guess the world still isn't ready for British humour. Also, to add to what you said Tom, they don't thank their fans in videos. They actually paid to go to Minecon.

Thought this might be of interest, as well.