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    Quote Originally Posted by Recursion View Post
    A lot of the time, companies refuse to accept they have security flaws, the only way to bring security issues such as this is to actually exploit them... of course, if you exploit them then tell the company what you've done and who you are, they'll press charges no matter what. It's a lose lose situation for the "good" guys.

    I'm by no means supporting what they do, but they don't have much of an option.
    That just sounds like an excuse - they can tell the world the flaw exists and force sony to fix them without realising any information - Yeah people may try to abuse it but hopefully the company will react quickly. Putting information out just doesn't help so called hacktivists and just makes the public see them as an enemy rather then someone apparently trying to defend them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteyt View Post
    That just sounds like an excuse - they can tell the world the flaw exists and force sony to fix them without realising any information - Yeah people may try to abuse it but hopefully the company will react quickly. Putting information out just doesn't help so called hacktivists and just makes the public see them as an enemy rather then someone apparently trying to defend them.
    No, they can't, because to test the flaw they have to use it some how, which is when the company will start going after them in the courts.

    There was a guy who found a flaw on Facebook, didn't abuse it, didn't take any personal information or anything but Facebook went after him in the courts because he told them about it... he lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recursion View Post
    No, they can't, because to test the flaw they have to use it some how, which is when the company will start going after them in the courts.

    There was a guy who found a flaw on Facebook, didn't abuse it, didn't take any personal information or anything but Facebook went after him in the courts because he told them about it... he lost.
    Yeah but the people won't hate him. I bet you if I found a security flaw to do with anon members hacked their stuff cos of it and posted information about all of them they'd be up in arms and be like we got to attack this guy. Look at the Kony video at the moment its spreading - you can tell someone about stuff without actually risking people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteyt View Post
    Yeah but the people won't hate him. I bet you if I found a security flaw to do with anon members hacked their stuff cos of it and posted information about all of them they'd be up in arms and be like we got to attack this guy. Look at the Kony video at the moment its spreading - you can tell someone about stuff without actually risking people.
    A charity event is nowhere near in the same league as reporting an exploit to a multi million dollar corporation, don't even attempt to compare the two.
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    i do believe that some of them actually think they're doing good, but the majority are idiots with too much free time who just want to cause as much drama as they possibly can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Recursion View Post
    A charity event is nowhere near in the same league as reporting an exploit to a multi million dollar corporation, don't even attempt to compare the two.
    Maybe it was a bad comparison but the problem is people can't seem to accept the fact that "most," members of organisations such as luzsec and anon are simply criminals, are very much hypocrites (they'll complain about people doing this and that and then do something similar).

    I didn't mind them when they simply tried to defend stuff such as Wiki Leaks but as soon as they put the public at risk they turn out to be just as bad as the people they are fighting against.

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