counterproductive moderation.

[Zelda]

I love just looking through the papoy thread and seeing the amount of posts as pointless posting, very few if any are actually pointless or even not following the rules of the thread, it's just mods trying to get mod logs clearly, this is why public forums are going downhill tbh.

[Chris]

I love just looking through the papoy thread and seeing the amount of posts as pointless posting, very few if any are actually pointless or even not following the rules of the thread, it's just mods trying to get mod logs clearly, this is why public forums are going downhill tbh.

It's nothing to do with getting logs. The rules in papoy are quite strict - http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...61#post5915961

[Grig]

Yes of course, this thread is an example of that. The problem is nothing to do with a thread evolving though, its to do with posts being unconstructive to the thread creators question.

Once it has been clarified by forum management then we can work to improve the issue if they see that there is one.

Disagreed. Not all threads evolve posts by posts, sometimes you have something that is still on topic, but doesn't necessary evolve, yet is still within the forum rules.

It is true moderation discrepancy here is a problem and not everyone is on the same page. Forum management should leave discrepancy, yes, but make it more clear.

[Zelda]

It's nothing to do with getting logs. The rules in papoy are quite strict - http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...61#post5915961

Rubbish chris and you know it, so many people are still following the strict rules and get pointless posted, your just being defensive tbh of the department, i know that obviously your good with the rules but so many just seem to be just pointless posting anything they can find, even if it's perfectly in the rules,

[Chris]

Rubbish chris and you know it, so many people are still following the strict rules and get pointless posted, your just being defensive tbh of the department, i know that obviously your good with the rules but so many just seem to be just pointless posting anything they can find, even if it's perfectly in the rules,

Give me some examples so they can be looked into.

[MissAlice]

Also, the Staff Spam thread should just removed. It clearly has no reason to exist. Staff should be interacting with members, so a spam thread contradicts what staff should be doing.

You're running a community forum - not a conglomerate where staff work in offices and your customers use your services.

Most stuff is discussion in terms of staff related or department related apart from one main thread that each department has which is known as the "Spam Thread".

I think all that is required for each department is a discussion thread.

departments who provide to the community should be a part of the community, not hide away in a spam thread.
if staff bonding is the reason the thread is there, managers should make an effort to bond in other ways.

I say remove staff spam and lets see if it integrates both staff and members together more.

As for staff spam closing, yes. It's not needed, it only furthers segregation of staff and members (inherently CAUSING the problem of them "not fitting in" elsewhere or whatever the lame excuse for needing it is), and of course means less activity outside of the staff area. Hx staff, especially those in the community departments, ought to be an active member of the forums so that they are aware and a part of the community they're supposed to be representing. It shouldn't have to be a case of managers having to actually note down how active their staff are in terms of posting, they should be wanting to be active already. If the argument "NORMAL SPAM IS SO HOSTILE!!!!!" comes up can you please ban whoever says it because it's simply not true and hasn't been for years. It's certainly no more hostile than the suggestion that staff are so above us that they require their own chat space.

I think it's been said enough times, and by long standing active members.

There is no need for a staff spam forum, all that it does is create a ‘them and us’, a divide! Please get rid of it. Staff should be encouraged to be active, to contribute with ideas, and take part in discussions that help the forum to grow, develop and go forward.

[beth]

I think all that is required for each department is a discussion thread.







I think it's been said enough times, and by long standing active members.

There is no need for a staff spam forum, all that it does is create a ‘them and us’, a divide! Please get rid of it. Staff should be encouraged to be active, to contribute with ideas, and take part in discussions that help the forum to grow, develop and go forward.

the problem i think is that so many managers are anti-removal of the staff spam thread that their staff won't get into the change.

it was myself and mattg vs about 11 people in the management discussion and it went nowhere.

[FlyingJesus]

You know things are bad when MissAlice rises from the dead to tell management to buck up their ideas

[MissAlice]

the problem i think is that so many managers are anti-removal of the staff spam thread that their staff won't get into the change.

it was myself and mattg vs about 11 people in the management discussion and it went nowhere.

This is about what the forum needs. What is best for the community? What are management scared of?

Staff bonding needs sorting if it relies on a staff spam forum. I'm not attacking anyone, just trying to open up minds, as there are other ways to improve staff relationships and help new staff get involved. They became staff to be involved, or did I get that wrong?

[Red]

There isn't even a staff spam thread, just individual ones for the department, which enables our department to bond with each other and get to know one another. Please give over about not being hostile because it was back then and it still is. I can link to numerous examples. I even invited people to this forum before and felt that people were so rude that they couldn't say. Also I am sure you would moan about the type of content that would then be posted in spam if it were to be removed. 'No habbo in spam' How many times has that been repeated? Anyway I don't believe that taking the spam thread away will force people to post in spam. They won't feel comfortable and simply will not post.