counterproductive moderation.

[Mathew]

Can't we just let it go now? It's getting boring and tedious...

Come on Jake, we're posting aren't we...?

[Catchy]

Come on Jake, we're posting aren't we...?

Lmao I post anyway, I rly aint bothered anyway because I post in spam occasionally and around the forum and I never rly posted in competitions spam cause no1 else did

[GommeInc]

So on one hand we think staff members should be encouraged to post around the forum, but on the other we think it's ridiculous that staff members are given extra incentives.

Which is it gonna be guys?

It can be both, they shouldn't need incentives to talk to the community they serve. If they need incentives and to be forced to actively contribute then, well, there's a perfectly good admin control panel that can remove job permissions. Habbox shouldn't be hiring people with no drive or passion to work with and in an online community, nor should they be hiring people who do not want to integrate. It's an online community, and should be treated like one.

[Mathew]

It can be both, they shouldn't need incentives to talk to the community they serve. If they need incentives and to be forced to actively contribute then, well, there's a perfectly good admin control panel that can remove job permissions. Habbox shouldn't be hiring people with no drive or passion to work with and in an online community, nor should they be hiring people who do not want to integrate. It's an online community, and should be treated like one.

They're fair points, but I do think it's a far too idealised view of Habbox. It would be great if everyone made 100 posts a day, but it's simply not going to happen - no matter how many things you take away or disagree with. If someone is willing to host 50 events a month, they're already dedicating 50 hours of their time to the site and I do think that's worthy of credit. Yes the forum is important, but it's not the be-all and end-all. People will post if they want to.

[Richie]

I personally think rewarding staff for putting in that extra effort is great new add-on. Not because I'm staff and I want VIP but because it gives everyone a target to work towards. At the end of the day this is a habbo fansite, the staff use their own furniture for prizes and have been for years. Now this point system is not only a nice way for habbox management to give back but a good way to keep everyone active. I don't give two ***** about VIP because I'm VIP till 2013 anyway. Besides, earning VIP isn't an easy task, a lot is involved and if one does get VIP they totally deserve it as they put a lot of effort in.

Removing the spam threads is a good thing but trying to suck staff of everything really isn't going to help the site. People ***** and moan (including myself) but if the site was to shut down tomorrow you'd think back and feel bad for the amount of **** you gave staff members when really they were just enriching your experience, offering a free service and their time but for what? To be told THEY CAN HAVE THIS THAT AND THE OTHER. The forum may allow a lot of input by their members but someone saying its not right is absurd. It's not right that someone is giving so much but receiving nothing in return.

[FlyingJesus]

Oh right. Mods get rep for hitting posting targets but we have never been given vip, and I dont think we should be anyway.

You get rewarded for talking to the community that you chose to represent and be a part of? Wow. Rewards for doing your job well I can understand and wholly agree with, but this is a whole different matter

So on one hand we think staff members should be encouraged to post around the forum, but on the other we think it's ridiculous that staff members are given extra incentives.

Which is it gonna be guys?

The two are not at all mutually exclusive :S if any comms staff seriously cannot integrate with the community without being paid in some way to do so then they obviously do not care enough to really be worthy of their position. I appreciate that many spend a lot of time doing their work on Habbo itself, but if they really like the Habbox community as opposed to just liking the prestige of being in charge of a popular event then they surely would have no problem with being an active poster

I personally think rewarding staff for putting in that extra effort is great new add-on. Not because I'm staff and I want VIP but because it gives everyone a target to work towards. At the end of the day this is a habbo fansite, the staff use their own furniture for prizes and have been for years. Now this point system is not only a nice way for habbox management to give back but a good way to keep everyone active. I don't give two ***** about VIP because I'm VIP till 2013 anyway. Besides, earning VIP isn't an easy task, a lot is involved and if one does get VIP they totally deserve it as they put a lot of effort in.

Removing the spam threads is a good thing but trying to suck staff of everything really isn't going to help the site. People ***** and moan (including myself) but if the site was to shut down tomorrow you'd think back and feel bad for the amount of **** you gave staff members when really they were just enriching your experience, offering a free service and their time but for what? To be told THEY CAN HAVE THIS THAT AND THE OTHER. The forum may allow a lot of input by their members but someone saying its not right is absurd. It's not right that someone is giving so much but receiving nothing in return.

I don't think anyone disagrees that staff should be rewarded for doing their job well, it's the apparent necessity for rewards that have nothing to do with the job in order to make them act like the rest of us that makes some of them seem massively aloof and inflated

[GommeInc]

Removing the spam threads is a good thing but trying to suck staff of everything really isn't going to help the site. People ***** and moan (including myself) but if the site was to shut down tomorrow you'd think back and feel bad for the amount of **** you gave staff members when really they were just enriching your experience, offering a free service and their time but for what? To be told THEY CAN HAVE THIS THAT AND THE OTHER. The forum may allow a lot of input by their members but someone saying its not right is absurd. It's not right that someone is giving so much but receiving nothing in return.

I think IF the site did close down tomorrow I wouldn't feel bad for the amount of stick I gave staff members. I don't know who they are for starters, so to feel bad for not knowing them is a bit difficult when they refuse to integrate and only want to be rewarded for it. The only rewards they need are the ones you listed, the ones where they do their job well or beyond the call of duty - getting rewards for communicating with members they choose to work for isn't worthy of a reward because that should be the bare minimum of the job, considering this is a Habbo Fansite. Besides, IF Habbox did close down tomorrow it would probably be the fault of a broken community brought on by such needless discussions.

[The Don]

I personally think rewarding staff for putting in that extra effort is great new add-on. Not because I'm staff and I want VIP but because it gives everyone a target to work towards. At the end of the day this is a habbo fansite, the staff use their own furniture for prizes and have been for years. Now this point system is not only a nice way for habbox management to give back but a good way to keep everyone active. I don't give two ***** about VIP because I'm VIP till 2013 anyway. Besides, earning VIP isn't an easy task, a lot is involved and if one does get VIP they totally deserve it as they put a lot of effort in.

Removing the spam threads is a good thing but trying to suck staff of everything really isn't going to help the site. People ***** and moan (including myself) but if the site was to shut down tomorrow you'd think back and feel bad for the amount of **** you gave staff members when really they were just enriching your experience, offering a free service and their time but for what? To be told THEY CAN HAVE THIS THAT AND THE OTHER. The forum may allow a lot of input by their members but someone saying its not right is absurd. It's not right that someone is giving so much but receiving nothing in return.

and there I was thinking we already had staff of the month as an incentive...

[GommeInc]

On a side note:

No one is discussing their competence and the amount of work they do - they after all work voluntarily. It would be nice if they did the bare requirements for social websites like Habbox and make themselves known by integrating with the community they serve. Habbos.co.uk was pretty good at this and will always be my #1 fansite, purely because they were so heavily involved and showed they enjoyed what they were doing. Habbox did this for a while, but it all went down hill very quickly

[Richie]

I think IF the site did close down tomorrow I wouldn't feel bad for the amount of stick I gave staff members. I don't know who they are for starters, so to feel bad for not knowing them is a bit difficult when they refuse to integrate and only want to be rewarded for it. The only rewards they need are the ones you listed, the ones where they do their job well or beyond the call of duty - getting rewards for communicating with members they choose to work for isn't worthy of a reward because that should be the bare minimum of the job, considering this is a Habbo Fansite. Besides, IF Habbox did close down tomorrow it would probably be the fault of a broken community brought on by such needless discussions.

Maybe that's the way you would feel but I'm speaking from my perspective, your not one to constantly moan over small things (Like myself and others) and just give out for the sake of it (Which I don't mean to do I just like things my way). When I have a problem I'll try to point out a way to fix it but I'm stubborn so it's normally my way or the high way.

and there I was thinking we already had staff of the month as an incentive...

Thats a good point, perhaps instead of getting VIP they should receive points instead. That way they can use the points to claim some credits or VIP. The point scheme is a far better way to keep people active. I personally would feel more of an achievement winning the point scheme as it actually points out 'You got this amount of points because you did this, this and this'. Maybe others feel differently but when I won staff of the month in the past it was kinda just like meh vip.


EDIT:
I was told that staff don't actually get vip from staff of the month, just the praise.