Sad to think there are people like this in the world...

[The Don]

Yes killing fish is a part of survival but fish aren't killed humanely by fishermen (from my point of view anyway) so I don't really see a discussion.

You seem to think I’m arguing about the methods in which fish are killed, which I’m not. Whilst yes, some fish are killed inhumanely by fishermen, they are killing them for a justified cause, the fish are going to use and are being killed for a reason, whereas here, some drunken messes decided to kill the fish for no other reason than as a bit of entertainment. That’s what I’m arguing about, and that’s why there is a huge difference between fishermen killing fish, humanely or not, and what happened here. Whether it’s just a fish or not, it’s absolutely sickening that someone would torture then kill something to amuse a few people on facebook.

[Richie]

You seem to think I’m arguing about the methods in which fish are killed, which I’m not. Whilst yes, some fish are killed inhumanely by fishermen, they are killing them for a justified cause, the fish are going to use and are being killed for a reason, whereas here, some drunken messes decided to kill the fish for no other reason than as a bit of entertainment. That’s what I’m arguing about, and that’s why there is a huge difference between fishermen killing fish, humanely or not, and what happened here. Whether it’s just a fish or not, it’s absolutely sickening that someone would torture then kill something to amuse a few people on facebook.

I said about three times now that what they did is wrong and killing something for a justified cause or not is still wrong as they're still harming the creature when there is other ways around it. We can argue all day and my opinion will still stand. I'm not gonna post here 'this iz so sad r.i.p nemo mizz uxxxxxx thez guys deserve to be lockd up!!!' because how i view it is, it's a fish. If we aren't going to kill them humanely it's hardly setting an example. I'm sure a lot more people would be throwing dogs off bridges if it wasn't against the law but it's so they don't and before you reply with something like NO1 WOULD THROW A DOG OFF A BRIDGE OR HARM ONE IF IT WASN'T ILLEGAL you're fooling no-one but yourself.


They shouldn't have done what they did and just because fishermen don't kill them humanely isn't an excuse (just to point that out). I guess I have similar views to pescaterians. I just don't look at fish the same way i look at animals.

[The Don]

I said about three times now that what they did is wrong and killing something for a justified cause or not is still wrong as they're still harming the creature when there is other ways around it. We can argue all day and my opinion will still stand. I'm not gonna post here 'this iz so sad r.i.p nemo mizz uxxxxxx thez guys deserve to be lockd up!!!' because how i view it is, it's a fish. If we aren't going to kill them humanely it's hardly setting an example. I'm sure a lot more people would be throwing dogs off bridges if it wasn't against the law but it's so they don't and before you reply with something like NO1 WOULD THROW A DOG OFF A BRIDGE OR HARM ONE IF IT WASN'T ILLEGAL you're fooling no-one but yourself.


They shouldn't have done what they did and just because fishermen don't kill them humanely isn't an excuse (just to point that out). I guess I have similar views to pescaterians. I just don't look at fish the same way i look at animals.

I fail to understand your analogy about throwing dogs off bridges. You seem to view it as acceptable to torture and kill fish because they are just fish, obviously you have no compassion towards them which I can’t change, but find it odd that you are trying to make their actions seem more acceptable. Surely you recognise that fish are living animals so I find it odd that whether or not a fishes life seems to hold any value to you, you can rationalise with these people.

Also, killing something for a justified cause is far more acceptable than killing for fun/enjoyment?

Seriously, what do you even mean with the throwing dogs off bridges part? Lmao

[Richie]

I fail to understand your analogy about throwing dogs off bridges. You seem to view it as acceptable to torture and kill fish because they are just fish, obviously you have no compassion towards them which I can’t change, but find it odd that you are trying to make their actions seem more acceptable. Surely you recognise that fish are living animals so I find it odd that whether or not a fishes life seems to hold any value to you, you can rationalise with these people.

Also, killing something for a justified cause is far more acceptable than killing for fun/enjoyment?

Seriously, what do you even mean with the throwing dogs off bridges part? Lmao

Animal cruelty is illegal if it was legal more people would do it. Humane laws on killing fish aren't in place so why would people care if they killed a goldfish. I just don't show any compassion for fish, I can eat animals and feel guilty but when I eat fish I don't have any guilt. I just can't believe we are arguing about fish.

To sum up my opinion. What they did was wrong but it's not like they can get locked up for it as it doesn't fall under the animal cruelty act. I don't like fish, I don't get upset when they die, they just taste good.

[The Don]

Sorry for the huge rant lmao, i just dont understand your point of view

Animal cruelty is illegal if it was legal more people would do it.

Generally speaking (if we are talking about active cruelty to animals rather than passive cruelty, which I think we are) cruelty to animals is usually a good indicator of serious psychological problems and is actually a known warning sign of certain psychopathologies, including APD ( also known as psychopathic personality disorder) so whilst there would be a slight increase in animal cruelty if legalised, I doubt it would increase much as generally, people who throw dogs off bridges tend to have deeper psychological issues and would probably do it regardless of it being legal/illegal.

Humane laws on killing fish aren't in place so why would people care if they killed a goldfish.

Again, I don’t understand this… There isn’t a law in regards to bullying yet generally speaking, a lot of people care about it which shows that action (law) doesn’t equate to value/care.

To sum up my opinion. What they did was wrong but it's not like they can get locked up for it as it doesn't fall under the animal cruelty act. I don't like fish, I don't get upset when they die, they just taste good.

It’s still upsetting that people would pointlessly torture and kill a living creature for no purpose at all, no?

[Richie]

Sorry for the huge rant lmao, i just dont understand your point of view



Generally speaking (if we are talking about active cruelty to animals rather than passive cruelty, which I think we are) cruelty to animals is usually a good indicator of serious psychological problems and is actually a known warning sign of certain psychopathologies, including APD ( also known as psychopathic personality disorder) so whilst there would be a slight increase in animal cruelty if legalised, I doubt it would increase much as generally, people who throw dogs off bridges tend to have deeper psychological issues and would probably do it regardless of it being legal/illegal.



Again, I don’t understand this… There isn’t a law in regards to bullying yet generally speaking, a lot of people care about it which shows that action (law) doesn’t equate to value/care.



It’s still upsetting that people would pointlessly torture and kill a living creature for no purpose at all, no?

Bullying is illegal it just sadly isn't acted upon until the damage is done or a video goes viral. I'm not going into that though as we are talking about fish not humans. I do think some of your analogy's are hilarious because a lot of the time I don't really understand them and it just looks like you are drifting off onto something that is completely irrelevant . Torturing something like a goldfish shouldn't be allowed but if it makes me a bad person for telling how i feel so be it. Although those idiots killed them goldfish for no reason I don't feel upset or any sort of anger. Although I would do if it was towards an animal. Heck I even feel bad after killing a fly / spider. I'm not sure why I don't feel the same way towards fish, I just don't.

[Stephen]

Dw Richie I feel the same way

I don't give two ***** that the fish is dead

Actually I don't even care when people die tbh

BUT WHEN A DOG DIES I'm like awww

[GirlNextDoor15]

Lol, I thought you both were a lot wiser than you evidently are… There is a HUGE difference between fishermen killing fish and what these people did to this fish. Fishermen kill fish to provide food whereas here they killed it purely for their own amusement. There is context to everything and I can’t believe you are comparing this to fishing/hunting which is all about sustaining life.

I only have one thing to say. It's neither acceptable nor unacceptable
Surely some people kill tigers for their skin or elephants for their tusks. Do you think it's acceptable? It's a tradition/culture.
And surely some people kill spiders just for the sake of killing it? Is it acceptable? Oh no wait. It's to 'protect' themselves cause they think spiders are gonna kill them lol. ffs it's called paranoid!
So, do you still think killing a goldfish for their own amusement is unacceptable? Who are we to say it's wrong/unacceptable when we are clearly killing animals for worse reasons? I think some people is blowing things out of proportion

I genuinely hope someday, we'll be able to know what's right and what's wrong.

[The Don]

I only have one thing to say. It's neither acceptable nor unacceptable
Surely some people kill tigers for their skin or elephants for their tusks. Do you think it's acceptable? It's a tradition/culture.
And surely some people kill spiders just for the sake of killing it? Is it acceptable? Oh no wait. It's to 'protect' themselves cause they think spiders are gonna kill them lol. ffs it's called paranoid!
So, do you still think killing a goldfish for their own amusement is unacceptable? Who are we to say it's wrong/unacceptable when we are clearly killing animals for worse reasons? I think some people is blowing things out of proportion

I genuinely hope someday, we'll be able to know what's right and what's wrong.

No, I don't think it is acceptable for people to kill animals merely for their fur/hide/tusks etc but it is far more acceptable than killing for entertainment. It's a fallacy that you're trying to link the two as if they are the same things. I think generally speaking, everybody with morals realise it is not acceptable or normal for someone to want to torture and kill something for their amusement.

[GirlNextDoor15]

No, I don't think it is acceptable for people to kill animals merely for their fur/hide/tusks etc but it is far more acceptable than killing for entertainment. It's a fallacy that you're trying to link the two as if they are the same things. I think generally speaking, everybody with morals realise it is not acceptable or normal for someone to want to torture and kill something for their amusement.

So you're saying it's unacceptable to kill a goldfish for entertainment but acceptable to kill a spider because you are afraid of it? c'mon