Habbo caught up in child sex scandal / Habbo Mute

[jasey]

Re-read it, I did not suggest that Habbo bring back Hobbas, which is what you just described, I did suggest they re-look at their hiring, training and policies with regards to professional moderation. Having written those guidelines that were used world-wide on every hotel I know that what has been ALLOWED to happen by Sulake should not have happened and never would of happened to this extent in the past. Moderators were paid staff, some office based, some home based but all attended a lot of training, there were a lot of policy documents and there were several criminal and background checks so I find your suggestion that the system was insecure enough to allow that type of person to be hired slightly amusing.

are you saying people have to have been convicted of a crime to be a pedophile? there is a first offense for every criminal and background checks don't read minds nor are they a crystal ball. i worked side by side with who you know as callie on a site she was major staff for after her habbo days and she had many interesting things to say. you can trump your 'secret inside knowledge' of habbo from five years ago but it just sounds self-righteous to me. well, moreso just lacking of logic.

---------- Post added 13-06-2012 at 08:29 PM ----------

Exactly what I've been saying. There are millions of online websites that are aimed for children or a general audience that have the same problems as Habbo has. Most of the cybering is basically teenagers messing around, a load of us on this forum probably hae once when we where young did it for a laugh.

As mentioned in an above post though this has been going on online and actually on Habbo for ages. So why have they just found out now. If anything it's the supposed to be good system for identifying these bad sites that needs looked into more in my opinion then Habbo.

I've mentioned this a load of times to, don't buy your young 11 year old a webcam. If you buy your child a webcam, make sure they know about the dangers and as a parent keep an eye on their online activities

i don't want to sound like i am big upping you just because we are on the same page but i literally am. solid post, solid mind, solid logic. agreed. so much agreed.

[iBlueBox]

How come? Before this took off I had never heard of him. I can't stand him - he's slow to respond and doesn't appear very helpful, and that's before and after this.

Because before hand, he did seem to have habbo on track of user enjoyment and was listening a lot more to habbos a lot more and did respond to them by twitter. Though through this rough patch he hasn't engaged much but to be honest he's probably been extremely busy then normal.

I don't think he's absolutely dreadful and not all the blame can be forced upon him because he's only been here for 8 months. and in all fairness to him, he did add Habbo Helpers and mentioned there were plans for them to have mute/kicking abilities eventually. He's reacted to this quite calmly on Twitter yet the global mute decision wasn't the best thing to do (Especially for such a long time) - but then again, I suppose it's stopped other news sites actually gaining evidence of the cybering lol.

If he manages to get Sulake out of this extremely rough patch, I'll be very impressed.

This is basically a lot of the main reasons, I do agree the mutes did seem pointless, But it's probably only till they have stricter moderation and guidance. I hope he does manage to get sulake through this patch.

I probably do think Sulake inside the organisation that moderators are probably being shouted at.

[Bob1]

are you saying people have to have been convicted of a crime to be a pedophile? there is a first offense for every criminal and background checks don't read minds nor are they a crystal ball. i worked side by side with who you know as callie on a site she was major staff for after her habbo days and she had many interesting things to say. you can trump your 'secret inside knowledge' of habbo from five years ago but it just sounds self-righteous to me. well, moreso just lacking of logic.

So you're suggesting that the criminal checks carried out on teachers or people who work with children are pointless? Because every one of them is a potential pervet? Your outlook on life baffles me. I know of Impetuous, I trained her when she was a Hobba, I'm not here to wobble on about inside knowledge but I am pointing out from my experience that particular time was a much better moderated time, whatever happened after that I know nothing of in terms of inside workings so can't comment.

[jasey]

You keep bringing in other websites when this is only regarding HABBO UK. In the UK, age of consent is 16, this isn't spain.

"It is not habbos fault". I am lost for words.. you have no real concept of what Habbo should and shouldn't be allowing so please stop spouting bullsh*t!

---------- Post added 13-06-2012 at 08:17 PM ----------



Age of consent is 16 in the UK, not 13.

If a 16+ year old has sex with a minor in the UK then they can be arrested for statutory rape. Maybe you should read up on some stuff?

err, my dear, there is no such thing as habbo uk. channel four is attacking the company right from the top, right at sulake who run habbo .com and .es alike. spanish habbo is way more popular and no one seems to have a problem there. if you want to bring the united kingdom in to this in specific then i will point you to the rape rates in the united kingdom versus those in spain.

united kingdom — 24 per 100 000 people
spain — 5.5 per 100 000 people

i guess their evil idea to let thirteen year olds explore sex isn't so bad, is it? cheers though. i'm going to stop making new posts on this thread soon because i've gotten my point out there and i know you can all read. i respect disagreement but i don't feel like arguing about this for another hour, ehe!

[Xedia]

if someone wants to say something, they will find a way to say it. every time. filters are nice but making the filter more harsh wouldn't solve any of this problem except perhaps appeasing the mommies and daddies who are wetting their pants seeing these atrocities of kids being curious about sex while watching channel four.

By harsh, I mean use an alphanumeric filter. Rather than just banning the word "sex", ban "S3X" and so on.

are you a puritan or something? habbo is a teeny tiny part of youth usage of the internet. it isn't the only place dating is enouraged. perhaps you should write to radio one and tell them to stop playing the songs children memorise that describe sex acts in not-so-veiled metaphor (or often just blatantly) and get all the videos featuring dating, beds and sex rooms off of the television. on that level, we need to get rid of children dating in real life as well. i'm giggling that you think people need a bed on habbo to cyber. kids cyber in chatrooms even more prevalently than on habbo and there are no images at all. perhaps we should make acknowledgement of sex illegal for kids just like holocaust denial is so that they aren't exposed to the dangers of what we are as people.

Who said anything about radio and television? I wish you would stop comparing this issue to other things, this is about Habbo and how it contains disgusting language and sexual acts, and the fact that it's "225 moderators" don't actually moderate, despite the fact their target audience is as young as 13.

on the same level, should they get rid of the bullet hole and bloody corpse outline furniture? the mafia simulations where people fantasise about guns and murder, crime and killing, drug exports and cartel wars. all of that and so much more. where is the big story on this? oh, wait, there isn't one. i wonder if that's because it's something that comes to children naturally to be interested in. i think the channel four reporters should all tell us their most dirty sex story. i'd love to hear but only if they are honest.

All that is debateable. But Habbo isn't a place for showing your flesh and giving someone something to play with them self over. There's other sites for that.

[jasey]

err, i must add that there is a big difference between stat rape and rape. stat rape is often between two consensual parties, one of whom is simply legally not 'allowed' to give consent. that doesn't mean that both parties weren't totally in to it. plain rape is different.

[Red]

What were the women's names who featured on tonights news? Seriously cannot get over how rude that reporter was.

I never really agreed with Paul's vision for the hotel. I know me, @Rubbish; @Richie; @Kyle; etc have all tweeted him about poor moderation but he just ignored the feedback and deemed everyone who sent similar tweets as trolls. Skimping on moderation doesn't seem like such a good idea now.

[Bob1]

i guess their evil idea to let thirteen year olds explore sex isn't so bad, is it?

There's a time and a place, you wouldn't send your child to a prison to do sex-ed and unfortunately Habbo isn't a safe place for kids to be dealing with those issues, there are people out there who will take advantage.

[Smurfed-]

What were the women's names who featured on tonights news? Seriously cannot get over how rude that reporter was.

I never really agreed with Paul's vision for the hotel. I know me, @Rubbish; @Richie; @Kyle; etc have all tweeted him about poor moderation but he just ignored the feedback and deemed everyone who sent similar tweets as trolls. Skimping on moderation doesn't seem like such a good idea now.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who though he was rude. It was like every time those two people went to say something about it not just being Habbo he interrupted them. I also found he was doing the same when they tried to say anything positive about the Hotel.

[AgnesIO]

they can't stop it from happening. they simply can't. this isn't borne out of a secret sulake agenda to get eleven year olds snapping their privates on camera and get in those terrible, immoral kissing booths (that shake!). it's just a product of society. look at the preteen abortion rates to get a clue as to how many young kids are doing this with or without habbo. it's everywhere and unless habbo voluntarily shuts down or just gives users pretyped messages to use instead of letting them actually type their own words it will continue forever and ever on any site that caters to teens. the furniture and the habbo way has nothing to do with it. as i have stated, the habbo romance and sex thing has been there since kids started getting the freedom to explore their sexuality on a site like this en masse.


i'll let you do the history on that one, i have enough drama as it is.

Of course they cannot stop it. They can seriously reduce it, and actively discourage it - rather than telling people to flirt, and have all this ridiculous stuff.

err, my dear, there is no such thing as habbo uk. channel four is attacking the company right from the top, right at sulake who run habbo .com and .es alike. spanish habbo is way more popular and no one seems to have a problem there. if you want to bring the united kingdom in to this in specific then i will point you to the rape rates in the united kingdom versus those in spain.

united kingdom — 24 per 100 000 people
spain — 5.5 per 100 000 people

i guess their evil idea to let thirteen year olds explore sex isn't so bad, is it? cheers though. i'm going to stop making new posts on this thread soon because i've gotten my point out there and i know you can all read. i respect disagreement but i don't feel like arguing about this for another hour, ehe!

Are you completely deluded?!

Suylake should be trying to prevent this sort of thing - Channel Four pointed out it was 11 YEAR OLDS. So are you trying to tell me that it is cool for 11 year olds too?

Also, yeah Spain has a lower rape rate.. but ermm.. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...es-birth-spain - Spain also has a much lower rate of immigrants - coincidence? I think not.