UK 'pirates' face £20 appeal fee

[Shar]

Well the current DEA has been failing due to it going against the European convention of human rights act so there's no guarantee of a newly revised one working out.

[PiippBB]

Everything about this is wrong. Charging someone to protest? Is this really what we're coming to?

[GommeInc]

A tad extreme to have the accused pay money to prove their innocence. Only attack them when they're proven guilty, you'll get far more respect for that and actually have a reason to punish them - even though enforcing piracy laws seems like a huge waste of resources for what is essentially a non-problem these days.

It seems weird they're punishing you before they have a reason to. Isn't the £20 in essence a punishment? You're losing an amount of wealth for something you've not be proven to of done.

[peteyt]

My question is is this aimed at downloaders, uploaders or both?

It seems there's a lot of laws being brought out to prevent people from downloading illegally. Interesting thing is the majority of downloaders only download and wouldn't risk uploading illegal content at least to the popular used sites from what I've seen.

There are lots of people who have been uploading stuff for years and never had anything sent to them. It makes me wonder if the government and ISP's keep going at the wrong people - instead they'll take down a site - uploader moves to another site, they try and go to the downloader - doesn't effect the uploader and so on.

[GommeInc]

My question is is this aimed at downloaders, uploaders or both?

It seems there's a lot of laws being brought out to prevent people from downloading illegally. Interesting thing is the majority of downloaders only download and wouldn't risk uploading illegal content at least to the popular used sites from what I've seen.

There are lots of people who have been uploading stuff for years and never had anything sent to them. It makes me wonder if the government and ISP's keep going at the wrong people - instead they'll take down a site - uploader moves to another site, they try and go to the downloader - doesn't effect the uploader and so on.

As far as I remember, these laws are usually aimed at those who host the content (and in some cases, upload it). I think the law which was going to target downloaders and those who watch the content failed to be passed through parliament.

As you may remember, there was pure rage on here when there were proposals for ISPs to monitor everything you do, so they can warn you if you are caught watching content like films that were not uploaded with the copyright owner's permission. That never went through, but enforcement of current laws that go after those who host the content - Pirate Bay, MegaUpload etc.

[peteyt]

As far as I remember, these laws are usually aimed at those who host the content (and in some cases, upload it). I think the law which was going to target downloaders and those who watch the content failed to be passed through parliament.

As you may remember, there was pure rage on here when there were proposals for ISPs to monitor everything you do, so they can warn you if you are caught watching content like films that were not uploaded with the copyright owner's permission. That never went through, but enforcement of current laws that go after those who host the content - Pirate Bay, MegaUpload etc.

See as someone who plans to work in the media industry and have a Degree in Film & TV Production, I see why the industry want's to do as much as possible to prevent this kind of thing and wouldn't want some of my work pirated without my consent.

My problem is under the laws that are planned innocent sites could get hurt. I'm not going to debate about megaupload, but the problem is as soon as you start telling people your going to monitor what they upload you then get all these privacy complains and organisations trying to shut you down because of that.

In my opinion sites should only be closed down if the site was actually helping to host illegal content as in encouraging it. If someone uploads it and they don't know, it should be the user who takes full responsibility.