Protocols not being followed

[Richie]

I wouldn't have an argument if the rule wasn't in place. To sum up the whole argument I'm just extremely annoyed that a manager, someone that is meant to set an example would go out of their way to find a route they could take which bypasses the rule. If you think I'm going to believe all this malarkey about her genuenly returning as a regular dj then just coincidently being promoted you best pull the other one.

[lawrawrrr]

Although the circumstances circling the promotion are iffy, end of the day, Jade is a new manager and needs people who knows how the department works. Jazz has had that role before, and I do agree she's the best person for the job.

It's like when a manager quits and an old manager is brought in (Martin for news or Hollie for comps - 2 examples I can think of at the moment). It's just good sense.

[Foregetfuhl]

Although the circumstances circling the promotion are iffy, end of the day, Jade is a new manager and needs people who knows how the department works. Jazz has had that role before, and I do agree she's the best person for the job.

It's like when a manager quits and an old manager is brought in (Martin for news or Hollie for comps - 2 examples I can think of at the moment). It's just good sense.

I've only been at HxL for 3 months I don't know everything about HxL. I know most stuff not all.. Jazz has been here for 2 years and knows it like the back of her hand. Shes a real asset and the best that was up for grabs for the position. I stand by my decision.

[lawrawrrr]

I've only been at HxL for 3 months I don't know everything about HxL. I know most stuff not all.. Jazz has been here for 2 years and knows it like the back of her hand. Shes a real asset and the best that was up for grabs for the position. I stand by my decision.

100% agree with you - I was trying to say this but you took the words out of my mouth (head) It's not like over her 'guest' spot she didn't do anything, she was still doing the same amount as a normal dj. Personally I think the guest bit should be removed if guest DJs aren't allowed any more. I think there's only one left anyway?

[Foregetfuhl]

100% agree with you - I was trying to say this but you took the words out of my mouth (head) It's not like over her 'guest' spot she didn't do anything, she was still doing the same amount as a normal dj. Personally I think the guest bit should be removed if guest DJs aren't allowed any more. I think there's only one left anyway?

We have three guest djs I think? one proper one and two like there just there for like looks? I guess? LOL I don't really know. End of the day Jazz has been saying she wanted to go back up to regular DJ for over a month and finally decided to go up about a week ago and I decided on the new Heads yesterday. Simple as really.

[xxMATTGxx]

What a cockup this seems to be - What do I mean by that? Well it seems the whole moving from Guest DJ > Regular DJ > Head DJ in a matter of days/hours does seem messy and also iffy at the same time.

Let's get rid of the stuff about Jazz not being fit to do the role and all of that goodness. She can do the role and probably do it quite effective which is what Jade was wanting. She was wanting someone with the experience and knowledge so that they can help around in managing the department. That's fine, no problems there. They also have someone new to the Head DJ role and that is Kyle - Nothing wrong with that and I don't believe this thread even mentions it.

It's quite clear that the whole moving to a regular DJ was to bypass some sort of rule that was put into place that stopped promotions from happening for anyone who was a Guest DJ. To get out of that you need to be a normal DJ or in one of the other roles which is what has happened here. You move the person to the role where you can get promoted and then give the promotion.

Is that wrong? Well it can look wrong from certain people but if it needs to be done, it needs to be done. But I personally believe it would have probably been better to wait longer before actually giving the Head DJ promotion to them as obvious people aren't stupid and it's going to be noticeable. That way she's been a regular DJ for so long, put the time and effort into that and then give her the Head DJ.

Leaving it for a while would have been a better and safe option and wouldn't cause any problems with other people most likely. Doing it this quick causes threads and PM's like this and then just shows how messy the situation is. Do remember this is my opinion on the situation.

Now all I can say now is: Let's hope they do a bloody good job in the roles they have been given.

[Andii]

Yeah I was wondering that earlier, how on earth did someone go from a regular DJ to head DJ in four days?!

Tbh I have to agree with this Richie and I can back you up, I've seen it happen in rare values aswell with Samanfa and Pigperson, in a week he went from rare values reporter to assistant manager, whereas others should have got a promotion instead but because Sam and will are such good friends this made it look more of a 'click' aswell.

but have to agree big time on this I rarely listen to Habboxlive as its hot boring now apart from a few djs and some deserve in my opinion a promotion rather than others, it's not fair on people who have worked and been in the department alot more to not get at least recognised for donating their time to the department instead of just ignored because someone's friend is in it.

[GommeInc]

If they're right for the job then perfect. It seems the reasoning is that she's useful with setting up the appropriate tools, knows how things are done and works well with the Manager. Best to have a perfectly fitting cog in a system. Blindly following rules does not need to apply if the outcome of the "avoidance" is genuinely useful and honest. If she's more capable and has proven her worth in the past, then why should it matter? If you're relying on the argument that "rules are rules" then you're de facto saying you have no actual reason. Actual reasoning behind an argument is better than a blind technicality.

It's like bringing in a fresh face or a properly qualified person to be in charge of HRM. It would be insane to put someone else in place if they're not very good from a management point of view just for the sake of not hurting the feelings of some select individuals.

[Samantha]

Tbh I have to agree with this Richie and I can back you up, I've seen it happen in rare values aswell with Samanfa and Pigperson, in a week he went from rare values reporter to assistant manager, whereas others should have got a promotion instead but because Sam and will are such good friends this made it look more of a 'click' aswell.

but have to agree big time on this I rarely listen to Habboxlive as its hot boring now apart from a few djs and some deserve in my opinion a promotion rather than others, it's not fair on people who have worked and been in the department alot more to not get at least recognised for donating their time to the department instead of just ignored because someone's friend is in it.

I'll be honest with you, if James did accurate values he would have been Assistant Manager in a flash. However, week after week I was denying about 3/4 of his values and sorry I shouldn't ask for him to be promoted if his accuracy is bad it's just not ethical really. I see where you're coming from but he shouldn't have been promoted (yeah in the future he could have been, not disputing that) if his accuracy improved that is. With Will it was quick and maybe wasn't the best option but I did need someone then and to some, like you, James, Lee etc. it looked like I was promoting my friends.

However, it really wasn't the case as I had asked for someone else to be the Assistant well before Will was in the picture - I wanted someone new (hence Luke didn't get it but James wasn't fit at the time).

I understand why Jade promoted Jazz, yeah it was quick but really did anyone moan when people such as Nicola could come back as high as a Super Moderator whereas people like Catzsy (who is an absolutely fantastic moderator) had to work at it and was a normal moderator for ages. If you need someone it's either promote someone who can do the job or leave, it's happened before it could have happened again then. Think how Jade feels, she got ditched by Gina, Gina is now a traitor at HFFM and Jade needed someone reliable!

[Jas,]

To be honest all I'm seeing is people complain all the time about changes that happen. I personally think all the changes are for the best and the amount of work jades putting in is just unbelievable and amazing. Most of you just love picking on people by speaking about the things that don't go so well but no one ever seems to talk about all the good things that have happened , New DJ's being brought in , Site being updated after god knows how long, People who need to be fired are being fired and slowly it's all coming together yes it takes time and work. It's not an easy thing so to be honest I think Jade and the others that are actually helping out are amazing and I thank them a lot for all the work they're doing and I personally want to stay down at Senior for a bit longer and I'm glad Jazz has gone up.