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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    Not being funny but who the **** is anybody to judge without being in the actual situation themselves? As @buttons;s said every situation differs... You can't pass judgement so easily on people, you all make me sick.
    awfully sorry that not everyone agrees that bringing a child into poverty is the right thing to do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Coco View Post
    awfully sorry that not everyone agrees that bringing a child into poverty is the right thing to do
    well maybe not but do you know what people are actually going through? no you don't, so you have no right to cast any assumptions, absolute idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    well maybe not but do you know what people are actually going through? no you don't, so you have no right to cast any assumptions, absolute idiot.
    oh so i'm an idiot because i believe that children should have a good upbringing? awfully sorry!
    if people are going through hard times then they shouldn't bring a child into that. i never said people shouldnt have children but they should work out a way to afford it first rather then just throwing a child into it.
    but no, i forgot that thinking that bringing another person into a world where they wont get fed or have a roof over their heads is being an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    well maybe not but do you know what people are actually going through? no you don't, so you have no right to cast any assumptions, absolute idiot.
    We're not saying that we know what people are going through, but if people are in a bad stage in their lives, why should they let their children suffer? I would not mind at all if I had a child right now, but could I support it in a way I see fit? No. Hence why I'm not planning on having children for a good 6/7 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    We're not saying that we know what people are going through, but if people are in a bad stage in their lives, why should they let their children suffer? I would not mind at all if I had a child right now, but could I support it in a way I see fit? No. Hence why I'm not planning on having children for a good 6/7 years.
    exactly, i don't understand any reason that you'd have a baby knowing full well that you could not afford the essentials that is needed for it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    well maybe not but do you know what people are actually going through? no you don't, so you have no right to cast any assumptions, absolute idiot.
    Are you serious!? We may not 'know' what people are going through but we could take a pretty educated guess! If people are stupid enough to bring children into the world when they don't have the means of providing fully for them, then they made their bed of suffering and they have to lie in it. The only victims in the situation are the poor little kids who aren't being raised in a suitable environment!

    Yes, situations change where people don't have the means of providing that they had before. But that's different, they didn't bring about the bad situation intentionally. But having children when you down right can't afford to is stupid, cruel and irresponsible.


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    I know this is old but I saw something on some program once where some families where actually having children so they could get more benefits as they already got them for some stuff so people do abuse it.

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    For gods sake, what do people suggest? Kidnapping a pregnant woman, tying her down and aborting her baby?! Absolutely ridiculous and morally wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .DnB View Post
    For gods sake, what do people suggest? Kidnapping a pregnant woman, tying her down and aborting her baby?! Absolutely ridiculous and morally wrong.
    No, it's more about people deciding to get pregnant when they can't afford to have children in the first place.

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    Do you understand that firstly: it takes 2 people to get pregnant, secondly pregnancy isn't always on purpose and thirdly even if they do get pregnant, that is their choice and always should remain their choice, suggesting otherwise is morally wrong. People do get pregnant, that is just life, humans need money so of course, benefits are paid, there is not a problem and even if it was a huge problem, there are no 'solutions' so it is pointless even discussing it. Humans get pregnant, it is our instincts! Our instincts are to breed, it is nature, even if you don't have money, you cannot fight nature in such a way.
    Also the mothers get TOO MUCH BLAME, what about the fathers? They should ALL be paying for their children, too much focus is put on 'getting pregnant' what about the men who impregnant women and do not step up to the mark, a mother with a newborn can't take care of her child and work but the father could get a job!

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