Hiya

[xxMATTGxx]

What do you mean by nobody really cares about them?

They must have felt strong enough to vote in the poll, since people did vote for the design, but the majority ended up voting for the old design to come back. People have been asking whether they have returned or not too which implies that they care. Of course certain people won't be bothered, peoples opinions vary a lot, but the poll has spoken really

When roughly can we expect to see them back? I recall someone saying they would be done "sometime tomorrow" nearly a week ago.

People were strong enough to sign a peition for Sulake to keep volter. No one gives a crap about it being changed, it just took them a few weeks to get used to it. Technically we don't have to listen to feedback or listen to anything people say as it's management who make the decisions of what happens on the site. But fortunately for everyone, we have a feedback section. I'm not saying they aren't coming back but I'm just proving a point. A point that occurs many times over and over again - I never set a date of me changing the user bars so anyone mentioning dates doesn't have a clue.

i do, but we all know the old ones are returning so not point arguing over them not being changed yet is my view

Ah but are they returning? It took some days after for people to realise they haven't changed back yet.

What I am trying to say is, people don't like change at first but after some weeks people are like "Shrugs" or "Meh" and they get over it.

[David]

People were strong enough to sign a peition for Sulake to keep volter. No one gives a crap about it being changed, it just took them a few weeks to get used to it. Technically we don't have to listen to feedback or listen to anything people say as it's management who make the decisions of what happens on the site. But fortunately for everyone, we have a feedback section. I'm not saying they aren't coming back but I'm just proving a point. A point that occurs many times over and over again - I never set a date of me changing the user bars so anyone mentioning dates doesn't have a clue.



Ah but are they returning? It took some days after for people to realise they haven't changed back yet.

What I am trying to say is, people don't like change at first but after some weeks people are like "Shrugs" or "Meh" and they get over it.

if you don't you'll trigger another feedback thread on polls ;l

[xxMATTGxx]

if you don't you'll trigger another feedback thread on polls ;l

Good job I don't lose sleep over such threads then.

[Martin]

People were strong enough to sign a peition for Sulake to keep volter. No one gives a crap about it being changed, it just took them a few weeks to get used to it. Technically we don't have to listen to feedback or listen to anything people say as it's management who make the decisions of what happens on the site. But fortunately for everyone, we have a feedback section. I'm not saying they aren't coming back but I'm just proving a point. A point that occurs many times over and over again - I never set a date of me changing the user bars so anyone mentioning dates doesn't have a clue.



Ah but are they returning? It took some days after for people to realise they haven't changed back yet.

What I am trying to say is, people don't like change at first but after some weeks people are like "Shrugs" or "Meh" and they get over it.

Ah right It was your forum manager who said the "sometime tomorrow" thing, in the actual feedback thread once the voting had closed. So I guess its just another case of crossed wires I'm sure its not a case of him "not having a clue".


I don't think people would be that bothered to jump around screaming WHY U NO CHANGE THEM the day after, its only been around a week, however I think they would come to expect the results of a poll to be honored. The current design came 5th in that poll, so its not like its close or anything

I'm not too bothered really, but I'm just confused as to whether they are being changed or not and a simple "I haven't had time yet" or "they will be done soon." would have been fine I'm not arguing, moaning or trying to be a pain, I was just asking.

[xxMATTGxx]

Ah right It was your forum manager who said the "sometime tomorrow" thing, in the actual feedback thread once the voting had closed. So I guess its just another case of crossed wires I'm sure its not a case of him "not having a clue".


I don't think people would be that bothered to jump around screaming WHY U NO CHANGE THEM the day after, its only been around a week, however I think they would come to expect the results of a poll to be honored. The current design came 5th in that poll, so its not like its close or anything

I'm not too bothered really, but I'm just confused as to whether they are being changed or not and a simple "I haven't had time yet" or "they will be done soon." would have been fine I'm not arguing, moaning or trying to be a pain, I was just asking.

You use the face far too much in a single post. I'm not arguing, I'm just making a point to people.

[Martin]

You use the face far too much in a single post. I'm not arguing, I'm just making a point to people.

ikr im sorry I'm just trying to make you realise that I'm not moaning or trying to be a pain, I'm just asking haha.

I can understand your point, but I think that its just one of those things where people aren't always as vocal about it. The Habbo thing is fair enough because they have 1000's of users etc, but we don't have quite that many members on each day, and I guess its just not that big of a deal since its just a userbar, but its the principle behind the fact that the community were given the vote and the majority decided and ting, It doesn't mean they care passionately about it, but some of those might have, and they chose based on what they thought looked best/would be best for the forum I guess using their judgement.

I hope I haven't used any ""'s in this post I don't even realise im doing it half the time.

[xxMATTGxx]

ikr im sorry I'm just trying to make you realise that I'm not moaning or trying to be a pain, I'm just asking haha.

I can understand your point, but I think that its just one of those things where people aren't always as vocal about it. The Habbo thing is fair enough because they have 1000's of users etc, but we don't have quite that many members on each day, and I guess its just not that big of a deal since its just a userbar, but its the principle behind the fact that the community were given the vote and the majority decided and ting, It doesn't mean they care passionately about it, but some of those might have, and they chose based on what they thought looked best/would be best for the forum I guess using their judgement.

I hope I haven't used any ""'s in this post I don't even realise im doing it half the time.

Making changes to anything can be quite big to the end users and at first they won't like it. But once they started seeing them or using the new changes then they will get used to it and their care about them being reverted back to the old userbars will become less and less. Which has been shown in this thread with people saying they have gotten used to ones that are currently enabled.

I'm not saying they won't go back - As people will just rant on about management not listening to polls blah blah blah blah blah. I'll find the old one's and put them up before the week is out or even sometime tonight.

[Martin]

Making changes to anything can be quite big to the end users and at first they won't like it. But once they started seeing them or using the new changes then they will get used to it and their care about them being reverted back to the old userbars will become less and less. Which has been shown in this thread with people saying they have gotten used to ones that are currently enabled.

I'm not saying they won't go back - As people will just rant on about management not listening to polls blah blah blah blah blah. I'll find the old one's and put them up before the week is out or even sometime tonight.

Then maybe a poll to decide what will happen with them wasn't a good idea in the first place if thats the idea (people getting used to them eventually), I think it just comes back down to whether you give members the option or make the decision yourselves. Sure people threw up a stink about them, it was a pretty sudden change to something that had been in place for quite some time and people look at most days, but its just userbar at the end of the day and you then have to take that and either give in to the people moaning and put it to a vote (which was done), then honour it, or you have to be firm, tell them they will get used to it and deal with the inevitable sulking.

Of course people will tend to get used to something once they get to see it more and more and get to like it, however they obviously liked the other 4 designs that beat them in the poll more too, and I guess it just shows the wide variety of peoples opinions. The poll was only a week ago, so there was quite a bit of time for people to "get used to them", which they weren't able to with the other designs in the poll. I think one of the main things was just the way it was handled in the first place and the lack of communication/member input when for changes to little things like that its often nice for the members to have an initial say too, and I think 100 forum members wanting change is more important and more reflective than a few management members wanting change, its just nice sometimes to have a few more opinions on something before going for it and then facing such a wide variety of different opinions.


I think its all fine now really, a lot of people probably like the old ones and the new ones having got used to them, and I guess later down the line you could re-asses the publics opinion and see if they want that change to take place later in the year or something.


I can totally understand what you are saying and where you are coming from, but I think its not so helpful thinking about it now since the decisions have already been made and stuff, and the margins were quite wide in the end. (please dont kill me)

[mrwoooooooo]

basically they're being lazy and just hoping people forget about them :rolleyes:

[xxMATTGxx]

basically they're being lazy and just hoping people forget about them :rolleyes:

Well you don't like feedback anyway so technically you shouldn't mind what happens.