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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    You can't call something an addiction and then blame someone else for it. No one forces the smoker to smoke...
    You can blame other people for making it even worse. If someone else constantly mocks someone because they self-harm, or knows that they self-harm and tries to make them worse about themselves, then they are to blame for "strengthening the addiction".

    If not, you're justifying me going around and telling all people who have attempted suicide (and failed) that they should do it again and all sorts of verbal ****. 'Cause you know, not my fault at all entirely their decision totally not influenced/strengthened by anyone...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abi View Post
    If you're that sensitive to what people say then why are you on a public forum? Plus, it is a pretty idiotic thing to do, you could easily go too far and harm yourself more than you intentionally wanted to.
    Like said above, I go on forums to get away from everything. Like a place to escape.
    You honestly don't understand.

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    basically what Warren said. It makes things worse. Most of the time those people who say things are a factor in the beginning of the self harm anyway. for me that is
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    Quote Originally Posted by buttons View Post
    cause why should people be attacked on a forum
    many of us go there cause they get it enough irl, you dont expect it to be on a forum
    this forum is the worst for it
    i agree people shouldnt be sensitive to others but that aint the only reason why people self-harm yknow. idiotic? will you stop using that word? and actually read up on peoples self-harm experiences to understand WHY they do it.
    We aren't 'attacking' the people who self-harm we are stating an opinion which people clearly keep forgetting. I've personally been close to self harming before but I soon realised it was a stupid thought and told someone about what was happening. Why should I stop using the word? It's the truth because fighting your own instinct (to keep yourself out of harm) is pretty silly thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abi View Post
    We aren't 'attacking' the people who self-harm we are stating an opinion which people clearly keep forgetting. I've personally been close to self harming before but I soon realised it was a stupid thought and told someone about what was happening. Why should I stop using the word? It's the truth because fighting your own instinct (to keep yourself out of harm) is pretty silly thing to do.
    You do attack people though. Loads of you do.
    People come on here to, what it seems like, find someone weak and throw loads of abuse at them, accuse them of things and more,until they can't take it anymore. And don't say people don't, because you and I both know it happens.





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    If you'd care to actually learn anything about mental illness and how it manifests before calling sufferers stupid that would be fab. As I said before, uninformed opinion is not worth voicing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abi View Post
    We aren't 'attacking' the people who self-harm we are stating an opinion which people clearly keep forgetting. I've personally been close to self harming before but I soon realised it was a stupid thought and told someone about what was happening. Why should I stop using the word? It's the truth because fighting your own instinct (to keep yourself out of harm) is pretty silly thing to do.
    uh if you understood self-harm many do it because it releases you from unhappiness/harm in the frst place.
    i agree people should never self-harm but it isnt as easy as get a psychiatrist or talk to someone especially when the people you should be able to talk to are the one who've made u feel that way in the first place. its an inner battle with yourself and you control this pain cause u cant control the rest. its not easy for me to explain but yes i get defensive when people are insensitive about it.

    back to the point, its an awareness day and a day for support. personally doesnt help me but if it helps anyone else im not gonna be a miserable ******* coming to bring people down by calling it stupid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    Yes but the medical fact of the matter is that it's not as simple as "get over it!", especially when there's actually a difference in the wiring of the brain as with trauma victims and those with mental health problems. Opinions in general are fine, uninformed opinions however are harmful and preaching them only leads to more ignorance and myth
    Lol how do you know if I'm uninformed? You pretty much just contradicted yourself there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Intersocial View Post
    You can blame other people for making it even worse. If someone else constantly mocks someone because they self-harm, or knows that they self-harm and tries to make them worse about themselves, then they are to blame for "strengthening the addiction".

    If not, you're justifying me going around and telling all people who have attempted suicide (and failed) that they should do it again and all sorts of verbal ****. 'Cause you know, not my fault at all entirely their decision totally not influenced/strengthened by anyone...
    There's a difference between egging someone on and called them idiots.

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    I know you're uninformed because you said you don't understand it :S and because you're displaying absolutely no knowledge of the subject whatsoever
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    Lol how do you know if I'm uninformed? You pretty much just contradicted yourself there.



    There's a difference between egging someone on and called them idiots.
    Explain the difference? Using the term 'idiot' is hardly positive and, although it's minor compared to other stuff that could be said, it's still not going to improve the situation. A psychiatrist would not bluntly say to someone "you are an idiot for self-harming".
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    I know you're uninformed because you said you don't understand it :S and because you're displaying absolutely no knowledge of the subject whatsoever
    I have read a lot of cases on the subject and my mother has some sort of depression like illness, I'm not sure exactly what it is called.

    Quote Originally Posted by Intersocial View Post
    Explain the difference? Using the term 'idiot' is hardly positive and, although it's minor compared to other stuff that could be said, it's still not going to improve the situation. A psychiatrist would not bluntly say to someone "you are an idiot for self-harming".
    Because one's directly telling them to do it and the other is just insulting them... I never said it was positive but it is completely different.
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