What is your view on cannabis?

[velvet]

That was a religious thing though, different case imo

okay then, alcohol was only made legal in the US in 1933. (though i'm not a believer of the merits of alcohol)

my point still stands that just because the government is against something, doesn't mean it's evil. the government is corrupt as hell and the big pharma companies have a fair amount of control over them, which is why, in my opinion, it won't be legal for a long time.
big pharma can't patent a natural substance = massive downturn of profits

[AgnesIO]

okay then, alcohol was only made legal in the US in 1933. (though i'm not a believer of the merits of alcohol)

my point still stands that just because the government is against something, doesn't mean it's evil. the government is corrupt as hell and the big pharma companies have a fair amount of control over them, which is why, in my opinion, it won't be legal for a long time.
big pharma can't patent a natural substance.

Big pharma can't patent anything they don't create!

Totally see your argument against the big pharmaceuticals though - we all know what an unethical bunch of *******s they are.

[velvet]

y'all should try and open your minds a liiiiiiiiiiiiiittle be for me. i'm an intelligent and well-informed lady. :p

[Adam]

Do you believe that smoking cannabis can lead to users progressing onto harder drugs? I ask this as friends of mine have certainly taken the same route cigarettes>cannabis>mkat>coke. I was wondering if that's a popular thing to sort of 'up the level' of drugs once you tried one?

Not having a go, just curious.

[velvet]

Do you believe that smoking cannabis can lead to users progressing onto harder drugs? I ask this as friends of mine have certainly taken the same route cigarettes>cannabis>mkat>coke. I was wondering if that's a popular thing to sort of 'up the level' of drugs once you tried one?

Not having a go, just curious.

i wrote no, but then thought about it a bit and i think this is the reason:

if people start smoking weed, they have to go to a dealer. there is hardly any money in weed since you can't cut it with other stuff and such, so most dealers also sell other drugs. by buying weed, people then have easy access to harder drugs (dealers will often text their phonebook with what they have coming in).

so the problem isn't cannabis as such, it's the access cannabis gives to dealers.

i think people who take harder drugs will have always have taken them, whether they smoked weed or not.
i know personally that my choice to try harder drugs in the past was not influenced by the fact that i'd tried weed at all, as weed isn't really comparable to other substances.

[Explorator]

gay marriage was illegal until recently, does that mean that it's wrong? the government isn't always right.

The government isn't always wrong either. Hemp is very easy to cultivate and grow. Illegal growers and dealers can make a lot of money off a little bit of Marijuana. It would put a lot of businesses out of business. The reason why it's illegal doesn't have anything to do with the effects on the body, ect. All the laws in the US, UK, ect are there to mainly protect businesses. It would take billions of dollars off corporations.

[velvet]

The government isn't always wrong either. Hemp is very easy to cultivate and grow. Illegal growers and dealers can make a lot of money off a little bit of Marijuana. It would put a lot of businesses out of business. The reason why it's illegal doesn't have anything to do with the effects on the body, ect. All the laws in the US, UK, ect are there to mainly protect businesses. It would take billions of dollars off corporations.

....... i know, that's the point i've been making allllllllllllllllllllllll thread lol :<

but, not for the reason you're saying.
one, there's no money in hemp, hemp and cannabis are different.
two, it's because of the big pharma businesses, not the illegal growers, there's very little money in weed, trust me, i should know.

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forever replying to every point in this thread lol

[Explorator]

....... i know, that's the point i've been making allllllllllllllllllllllll thread lol :<

but, not for the reason you're saying.
one, there's no money in hemp, hemp and cannabis are different.
two, it's because of the big pharma businesses, not the illegal growers, there's very little money in weed, trust me, i should know.

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forever replying to every point in this thread lol

I understand where you are coming from. They are the same plant but are cultivated in different ways. If the legalization of cannabis happens, hemp would have to be legalized as a whole. It's like saying 'I am going to legalize Bulldogs in the US but not Labradors'. That is the reason why.

[velvet]

I understand where you are coming from. They are the same plant but are cultivated in different ways. If the legalization of cannabis happens, hemp would have to be legalized as a whole. It's like saying 'I am going to legalize Bulldogs in the US but not Labradors'. That is the reason why.

i spoke a fair bit about the hemp industry already, but i can't be bothered to search through and find my post, heh.
they aren't the same plant, they're fairly different plants. they're simply in the same family, like a wolf to a chihuahua.
you can't get high off of hemp, it would be pointless for the average joe to grow it. "cannabis" is much harder to cultivate.
hemp would benefit the plastic, clothing and many other industries, but not the drug industry.

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using cannabis to refer to the plants with psychoactive buds, by the way. it's just easier for the average reader :p

[Explorator]

i spoke a fair bit about the hemp industry already, but i can't be bothered to search through and find my post, heh.
they aren't the same plant, they're very different plants. they're simply in the same family.
you can't get high off of hemp, it would be pointless for the average joe to grow it. "cannabis" is much harder to cultivate.
hemp would benefit the plastic, clothing and many other industries, but not the drug industry.

In fairness, the reason why weed isn't legal is because of mostly hemp. That's about as much as i can say about this topic now.