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    Default News integration on forum

    http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...91#post7865191
    http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...51#post7866151

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    basically just asking for opinions on whether people are for/against the idea and how they would want it integrated and done. Already have a plethora of ideas discussed with some people but the extra feedback would be really useful, to see if it is worth doing etc.
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    It would be awkward in the sense that an article would be posted one or two days before news and then it'll look like news are behind. You do that, you're in the spotlight and would need to speed up, otherwise it'll be a major fail.

    I am for it, as long as it's done quickly. Yet, the problem will be that there would always be people who beat news and I predict this. We had a bot years ago, but no one cared, so it may be a similar situation. The bot basically duplicated reports onto the forum.
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    Duplicate threads look messy. Especially if there's a massive delay in getting the news article out. That's always been my view anyway, especially when it comes to Habbo news...





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    The best I think could be to post the full report in the same thread if it's already been posted, if it hasn't like this one I have just done: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...80#post7944880 I think it might work more?

    I'm not too sure though as the formatting might also be different, could be harder to edit if you don't do it quickly etc. too as it's twice the editing and you'd have to get someone to do it for you maybe?

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    The full article shouldn't be posted in the forum, because that deters people away from the main site.

    What I suggested before as this: (using sams report as an example and in quotes so can be seen easier)



    New handitems were found late last week and now codes revealing that a new rare purchasable with buying Credits will be released soon.

    A Candy Machine Rare will be available until the 2nd July, but at the moment it's unknown when this will actually be; as the 2nd is Tuesday it looks like a weekend release is on the cards. Currently, images have yet to be uploaded to the Habbo servers, and all we have are the codes which are below.

    Click here for the full news report
    And this should be posted exactly the same time as it is to the habbox site. I don't understand what people are on about with the delay?

    So basically, post the short story, and maybe an image (obviously do it better than I did) and then a link to the full story on the site. The opening short story needs to be attention grabbing to make users want to go onto Habbox to read the full report. The forums should be non-repliable(word?) too so that attention isn't taken away from the news and rumours section. None of the bot crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e5 View Post
    The full article shouldn't be posted in the forum, because that deters people away from the main site.

    What I suggested before as this: (using sams report as an example and in quotes so can be seen easier)




    And this should be posted exactly the same time as it is to the habbox site. I don't understand what people are on about with the delay?

    So basically, post the short story, and maybe an image (obviously do it better than I did) and then a link to the full story on the site. The opening short story needs to be attention grabbing to make users want to go onto Habbox to read the full report. The forums should be non-repliable(word?) too so that attention isn't taken away from the news and rumours section. None of the bot crap.
    Why shouldn't people be able to reply to it? If you do that then you're not helping news you're basically stopping people commenting on reports when they could just as easily on the forum; they're not going to bother going on the site and commenting when they can reply to the thread in news and rumours?

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    It's basically gonna be a case of duplicate threads that people reply in though. One thread with your news report, and another with a user posting it = 2 discussions. I thought the idea of this integration was for people to read habbox news reports on the forum, then if they want to read more, send them to the habbox site, where they can comment there... when i was in news we were credited for the amount of people that commented on our news reports.

    I'll be so annoyed if this happens and it's done stupidly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Samanfa View Post
    Why shouldn't people be able to reply to it? If you do that then you're not helping news you're basically stopping people commenting on reports when they could just as easily on the forum; they're not going to bother going on the site and commenting when they can reply to the thread in news and rumours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grig View Post
    It would be awkward in the sense that an article would be posted one or two days before news and then it'll look like news are behind. You do that, you're in the spotlight and would need to speed up, otherwise it'll be a major fail.
    If news staff take days to copy a thread onto the site they have no right to pretend they're journalists of any sort

    Quote Originally Posted by Grig View Post
    I am for it, as long as it's done quickly. Yet, the problem will be that there would always be people who beat news and I predict this. We had a bot years ago, but no one cared, so it may be a similar situation. The bot basically duplicated reports onto the forum.
    People getting there before staff shouldn't be an issue - there's no reason why the threads linked to through the site necessarily have to be started by the articles staff. If user_5273 makes a thread about the release of a new duck on Habbo staff can still write their own blurb for the site and then the read more link can just be written as "See what other users think of this matter and give your opinion here" or something. There's currently a grand total of 5 people who've commented on articles this month, mostly staff, with a massively more significant number of people involved in threads on the same topics on the forum. Either the two need to be linked or news is totally dead as a department

    Quote Originally Posted by laura View Post
    Duplicate threads look messy. Especially if there's a massive delay in getting the news article out. That's always been my view anyway, especially when it comes to Habbo news...
    That's lovely but I'm not sure where you got the idea of duplicate threads from - if anything this would stop them as it would give one definitive place for discussion about a certain issue to take place where we currently have a nonsensical split between site and forum. Again, if news staff are doing their jobs there shouldn't be a huge delay, and again that's an issue that's faced by the team currently anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by e5 View Post
    So basically, post the short story, and maybe an image (obviously do it better than I did) and then a link to the full story on the site. The opening short story needs to be attention grabbing to make users want to go onto Habbox to read the full report. The forums should be non-repliable(word?) too so that attention isn't taken away from the news and rumours section. None of the bot crap.
    We're trying to get people to be involved in the news stories not shut them out by putting taglines in closed forums so no-one can discuss anything you said that you don't want attention taken away from the news&rumours section, so why could "official" Hx news threads not just be posted there and then allow for discussion to take place? The point of having the comments and such on the forum rather than the site is that hardly anyone uses the site comments section and anyone who reads the site news and does want to comment will then come here and become part of the community to do so

    I don't have anything against threads with a link to the site such as the example you posted (and that could be good for building traffic both ways), but making it so that people can't talk in them takes away from the entire point, and would be an exact replica of the old bot system which no-one liked
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    I think if you're going to integrate it into the thread then you need to delay thread release to coincide with whats going on on habbox. I know that theres a few days delay with whats published on habbox (which needs to be sped up because by then its old news) so if you did that it would be far more efficient.



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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexJRiley View Post
    I think if you're going to integrate it into the thread then you need to delay thread release to coincide with whats going on on habbox. I know that theres a few days delay with whats published on habbox (which needs to be sped up because by then its old news) so if you did that it would be far more efficient.
    You haven't read in a while then as @Intersocial; will always post the news just over a day afterwards if needs be (that's if no one else takes it) whereas other times we usually beat the forum and other fansites.

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