Clegg calls on supermarkets to implement 5p plastic bag tax

[Red]

Experts are often wrong and often exaggerate claims for political or financial purposes, you only have to look at my global warming thread.

Look, i'm against it on the principle of force being used. But if you think force should be used to 'clean up our streets' then fine - but i'm asking you to apply it equally against things you may enjoy too such as chewing gum which also makes a mess of the streets.

If somebody argues on principle then at least they have a viable argument and earn respect of the opposition rather than being all over the place.

It's a small change that people adapt to very easily/quickly. People being forced to lock up their dogs or chewing gum bans is drastic and while you seem to think they are comparable. I do not.

[Futz]

Sounds like a sound proposition old sport

If the money actually goes towards the environmental cause

But polotics

[peteyt]

A little bit off topic but from what I've heard everything we are doing to reduce landfill, pollution etc. here in the UK is pointless because countries abroad like China are doing double maybe more. Not sure how true this is but it doesn't surprise me

[Phil]

Which is another reason to oppose it here.

Uhm, how? :S

[Yawn]

the main reason we would want to reduce the amount of plastic carrier bags we use is because of the massive amount of fuel and energy that is required to make the bags. it is incredibly unsustainable and causes issues with co2 emissions/global warming etc.

but yes they cause litter in the streets and dont degrade particularly well as well which is another problem

A little bit off topic but from what I've heard everything we are doing to reduce landfill, pollution etc. here in the UK is pointless because countries abroad like China are doing double maybe more. Not sure how true this is but it doesn't surprise me

yes thats true and isnt off topic at all

[peteyt]

the main reason we would want to reduce the amount of plastic carrier bags we use is because of the massive amount of fuel and energy that is required to make the bags. it is incredibly unsustainable and causes issues with co2 emissions/global warming etc.

but yes they cause litter in the streets and dont degrade particularly well as well which is another problem

yes thats true and isnt off topic at all

Shouldn't we be trying to reduce it then. Obviously things are being done, but I do think we are focusing more on our countries smaller pollution than the bigger countries doing the worst damage on much bigger scales.

I also wonder if the bag tax would be effective. My mother I know takes bags with her all the time in her handbag but obviously I don't carry a handbag ha. I think a lot of people will end up buying the bags anyway's - it will reduce it slightly but for most they will just pay the small fee.