Gender-based abortions: right or wrong?

[FlyingJesus]

You're writing words but they just aren't making sense, would you like to try again?

[Kardan]

And what do you think about abortion in cases where the mother's life is in danger?
Do the necessary to save both lifes.
And what about situations where the baby will not survive outside the womb?
That's not a reason to not let him have a chance to live.

Sadly there are cases where both mother and child cannot be saved. What happens in that situation then?

And if a baby is born with a fatal defect, for example, only born with half a heart and will die as soon as it is born, you are not giving it a chance to live, you are only letting it have the chance to die in front of its parents... (Of course with abortion its the same outcome, but surely the earlier its done, the better. If not, you're essentially raising the baby so it can die later, and depending on when certain senses develop, it could certainly be a more cruel death).

And why should a woman have to give birth to a 40 week old baby and watch it die because you (not the mother!) didn't want to kill the 20 week old baby.

[karter]

And what do you think about abortion in cases where the mother's life is in danger?
Do the necessary to save both lifes.
And what about situations where the baby will not survive outside the womb?
That's not a reason to not let him have a chance to live.

If you have any idea of how medical procedures go, there come many situations where only one of them can be saved so enough with the layman comments "do the necessary" because you clearly have no medical experience or any knowledge whatsoever

Risking an adult's life for an unborn undeveloped child who might not survive is the most idiotic excuse made by prolifers

[lucaskf390]

Sadly there are cases where both mother and child cannot be saved. What happens in that situation then?

And if a baby is born with a fatal defect, for example, only born with half a heart and will die as soon as it is born, you are not giving it a chance to live, you are only letting it have the chance to die in front of its parents... (Of course with abortion its the same outcome, but surely the earlier its done, the better. If not, you're essentially raising the baby so it can die later, and depending on when certain senses develop, it could certainly be a more cruel death).

And why should a woman have to give birth to a 40 week old baby and watch it die because you (not the mother!) didn't want to kill the 20 week old baby.

Sadly there are cases where both mother and child cannot be saved. What happens in that situation then?
One (or both) of them unfortunately die, but you did all you could to try to save them.

And if a baby is born with a fatal defect, for example, only born with half a heart and will die as soon as it is born, you are not giving it a chance to live, you are only letting it have the chance to die in front of its parents... (Of course with abortion its the same outcome, but surely the earlier its done, the better. If not, you're essentially raising the baby so it can die later, and depending on when certain senses develop, it could certainly be a more cruel death).

What has no cure today can possibly be cured tomorrow, medicine is advancing rapidly and that his assertion cruel death, abortion is women taking a medicine that blocks the fetal development and the other is to cut the fetus into pieces and sucks it out . What is cruel here?
And that affirmation shows you have no faith, that I won't discuss.

[lucaskf390]

If you have any idea of how medical procedures go, there come many situations where only one of them can be saved so enough with the layman comments "do the necessary" because you clearly have no medical experience or any knowledge whatsoever

Risking an adult's life for an unborn undeveloped child who might not survive is the most idiotic excuse made by prolifers

If you have any idea of how medical procedures go, there come many situations where only one of them can be saved so enough with the layman comments "do the necessary" because you clearly have no medical experience or any knowledge whatsoever
There is always a chance that 1 of them will die, Is that a excuse to abort? I have no experience but I know that are doctor's job save all lifes as he can.
Risking an adult's life for an unborn undeveloped child who might not survive is the most idiotic excuse made by prolifers
There is always a risk during birth mother or child have problems, if your mother think as you do, you wouldn't be here.

[karter]

If you have any idea of how medical procedures go, there come many situations where only one of them can be saved so enough with the layman comments "do the necessary" because you clearly have no medical experience or any knowledge whatsoever
There is always a chance that 1 of them will die, Is that a excuse to abort? I have no experience but I know that are doctor's job save all lifes as he can.
Risking an adult's life for an unborn undeveloped child who might not survive is the most idiotic excuse made by prolifers
There is always a risk during birth mother or child have problems, if your mother think as you do, you wouldn't be here.

I don't need to be thankful to my mother for not aborting me, what the ****??? ?? For anything I need to be thankful for is for her to give birth to me and raise me. Shut up, moral police.

And yes, that is an excuse to abort a child, because the fetus is not a breathing, independently living and thinking creature while the mother is. Like I said that there comes a point when doctors need to decide which one to save, that's a good ******* excuse to abort if the mother is willing since it's her body and not anyone else's. If you still don't get what I am trying to say, go to page 1 and read each post from there' you'll get where I am going because I am really tired of repeating the point which is so easily understandable

Anyway I found this quote which I thought was the apt reply

“Bringing a child into the world makes sense only if this child is wanted consciously and freely by its two parents. If it is not, then it is simply animal and criminal behavior. A human being becomes human not through the casual convergence of certain biological conditions, but through an act of will and love on the part of other people. If this is not the case, then humanity becomes — as it is already to a large extent — no more than a rabbit-warren.
In abortion the person who is massacred, physically and morally, is the woman. […] The fate of the woman is in such a disproportionate condition of unfairness compared with the man’s, that every male should bite his tongue three times before speaking about such things.
”

—	Italo Calvino on abortion - 1975

I hope everyone shuts up now

[FlyingJesus]

BUT ADOPTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! because there are totes more people looking to adopt than kids needing to be adopted right and no-one's ever left in the system for all of their child life right and growing up knowing that you weren't wanted won't be damaging at all right

ps still not sure what his response to me was meant to say

[Kardan]

Sadly there are cases where both mother and child cannot be saved. What happens in that situation then?
One (or both) of them unfortunately die, but you did all you could to try to save them.

And if a baby is born with a fatal defect, for example, only born with half a heart and will die as soon as it is born, you are not giving it a chance to live, you are only letting it have the chance to die in front of its parents... (Of course with abortion its the same outcome, but surely the earlier its done, the better. If not, you're essentially raising the baby so it can die later, and depending on when certain senses develop, it could certainly be a more cruel death).

What has no cure today can possibly be cured tomorrow, medicine is advancing rapidly and that his assertion cruel death, abortion is women taking a medicine that blocks the fetal development and the other is to cut the fetus into pieces and sucks it out . What is cruel here?
And that affirmation shows you have no faith, that I won't discuss.

So its okay if the mother dies? At least the doctors tried to deliever the baby? And I think babies being born without a full heart is a pretty fatal defect, it seems unlikely to me that someone would opt for an abortion but then change their mind because they get told that scientists maybe able to discover how to build a new babies heart in a day.

And I'm not religious no, but that makes little difference. There are many religious women in need of abortions and there have been recent cases of women refused abortions over religion that have died.
So you would make the decision for your wife over abortion then? And if her life was in danger you would tell her to continue the pregnancy?

[RapLuvr334]

let them have it its their body so its their choice stop being sexist u *****s

[lucaskf390]

So its okay if the mother dies? At least the doctors tried to deliever the baby? And I think babies being born without a full heart is a pretty fatal defect, it seems unlikely to me that someone would opt for an abortion but then change their mind because they get told that scientists maybe able to discover how to build a new babies heart in a day.

And I'm not religious no, but that makes little difference. There are many religious women in need of abortions and there have been recent cases of women refused abortions over religion that have died.
So you would make the decision for your wife over abortion then? And if her life was in danger you would tell her to continue the pregnancy?

So you would make the decision for your wife over abortion then?
Yes, I would without thinking twice.
And if her life was in danger you would tell her to continue the pregnancy?
Yes, I would without thinking twice. Parents must take care of their children, no matter the problem. Animals have same action. Egoism is the main problem here.

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I don't need to be thankful to my mother for not aborting me, what the ****??? ?? For anything I need to be thankful for is for her to give birth to me and raise me. Shut up, moral police.

And yes, that is an excuse to abort a child, because the fetus is not a breathing, independently living and thinking creature while the mother is. Like I said that there comes a point when doctors need to decide which one to save, that's a good ******* excuse to abort if the mother is willing since it's her body and not anyone else's. If you still don't get what I am trying to say, go to page 1 and read each post from there' you'll get where I am going because I am really tired of repeating the point which is so easily understandable

Anyway I found this quote which I thought was the apt reply



I hope everyone shuts up now

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