Gender-based abortions: right or wrong?

[Kardan]

So you would make the decision for your wife over abortion then?
Yes, I would without thinking twice.
And if her life was in danger you would tell her to continue the pregnancy?
Yes, I would without thinking twice. Parents must take care of their children, no matter the problem. Animals have same action. Egoism is the main problem here.

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Wait, wait... Isn't egoism all about only caring for yourself? Because, y'know... I'm going to argue that me and karter are trying to care for the females here...

As for your opinions, I mean, there's just no words for it. I understand people complaining about teenagers having abortions because they have unprotected sex, and people complaining that the abortion week limit is too high, and even people that wouldn't want to have abortions themselves because they are religious...

...but for you to say you would demand your wife to carry on with the pregnancy, I mean... there's just no words. Your wife has no rights to her own body then?

Even @-:Undertaker:-; doesn't have this extreme of a view, and y'know, he's quite good at doing that

[lucaskf390]

Wait, wait... Isn't egoism all about only caring for yourself? Because, y'know... I'm going to argue that me and karter are trying to care for the females here...

As for your opinions, I mean, there's just no words for it. I understand people complaining about teenagers having abortions because they have unprotected sex, and people complaining that the abortion week limit is too high, and even people that wouldn't want to have abortions themselves because they are religious...

...but for you to say you would demand your wife to carry on with the pregnancy, I mean... there's just no words. Your wife has no rights to her own body then?

Even @-:Undertaker:-; doesn't have this extreme of a view, and y'know, he's quite good at doing that

I'd kill myself for my children or my family without thinking twice.
Your wife has no rights to her own body then?
Once you are going to have a children (wanted or not), you responsability is there, wanting or no, you must take care. And parents' instint as humans is to save their children! It's your blood there, Your most important legacy. And if the only solution is to die, die.

[Kardan]

I'd kill myself for my children or my family without thinking twice.
Your wife has no rights to her own body then?
Once you are going to have a children (wanted or not), you responsability is there, wanting or no, you must take care. And parents' instint as humans is to save their children! It's your blood there, Your most important legacy. And if the only solution is to die, die.

So a woman should be prepared to die for her unborn child that could also die itself? That's madness.

[MKR&*42]

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I've always wondered how it could be fair if this happens:

A) Male X gets Female Z pregnant
B) Z decides she doesn't want to have a baby
C) X still wants the baby and can financially support one by himself and would also be a good father figure. This leads to argument and X + Z split up over it, but the "child" is still 50% biologically X's and he wants that child.
D) Z knows he wants that child as an act of revenge refuses to give birth and instead gets an abortion.

Z is allowed to go ahead with the abortion despite X having the financial stability and good characteristics of being a good father who genuinely wants a child. I must ask how it is fair Z gets the final say despite the fact the child is only 50% hers (and in this case there won't be any complications ok), it just sickens me such a case could happen where something is destroyed out of pure revenge.

As for rest of debate idrc.

[Kardan]

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I've always wondered how it could be fair if this happens:

A) Male X gets Female Z pregnant
B) Z decides she doesn't want to have a baby
C) X still wants the baby and can financially support one by himself and would also be a good father figure. This leads to argument and X + Z split up over it, but the "child" is still 50% biologically X's and he wants that child.
D) Z knows he wants that child as an act of revenge refuses to give birth and instead gets an abortion.

Z is allowed to go ahead with the abortion despite X having the financial stability and good characteristics of being a good father who genuinely wants a child. I must ask how it is fair Z gets the final say despite the fact the child is only 50% hers (and in this case there won't be any complications ok), it just sickens me such a case could happen where something is destroyed out of pure revenge.

As for rest of debate idrc.

Whilst it is morally wrong to do that, it is her body at the end of the day and there is not much you can do to stop that from happening.

[Catchy]

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I've always wondered how it could be fair if this happens:

A) Male X gets Female Z pregnant
B) Z decides she doesn't want to have a baby
C) X still wants the baby and can financially support one by himself and would also be a good father figure. This leads to argument and X + Z split up over it, but the "child" is still 50% biologically X's and he wants that child.
D) Z knows he wants that child as an act of revenge refuses to give birth and instead gets an abortion.

Z is allowed to go ahead with the abortion despite X having the financial stability and good characteristics of being a good father who genuinely wants a child. I must ask how it is fair Z gets the final say despite the fact the child is only 50% hers (and in this case there won't be any complications ok), it just sickens me such a case could happen where something is destroyed out of pure revenge.

As for rest of debate idrc.

It's a grey area. Is it fair to let X go through 40 weeks of an unwanted pregnancy? No. Pregnancy isn't all it's cracked up to be.

[karter]

100% egoist text

Last time I remember egoist meant a self centred person and I'm here standing up for women and their right to choose and gee, I became self centred, fantastic logic coming from a guy who will never bear the pain of pregnancy

[Craptarded]

Having to have an abortion I can really relate to this topic. I do not believe one should be allowed to abort if they don't like the gender of the fetus. I am pro choice when it comes to abortion though. Since i would be a hypocrite if I said I was anti.


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[karter]

-insert unpopular opinion- |
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I've always wondered how it could be fair if this happens:

A) Male X gets Female Z pregnant
B) Z decides she doesn't want to have a baby
C) X still wants the baby and can financially support one by himself and would also be a good father figure. This leads to argument and X + Z split up over it, but the "child" is still 50% biologically X's and he wants that child.
D) Z knows he wants that child as an act of revenge refuses to give birth and instead gets an abortion.

Z is allowed to go ahead with the abortion despite X having the financial stability and good characteristics of being a good father who genuinely wants a child. I must ask how it is fair Z gets the final say despite the fact the child is only 50% hers (and in this case there won't be any complications ok), it just sickens me such a case could happen where something is destroyed out of pure revenge.

As for rest of debate idrc.

Right of the woman over her body vs Right of the crybaby male parent who might not even make a good parent. Oh yeah, you gotta pick your battles

What's really sickening here is that you can judge how a male parent will be like just by his financial stability even though the woman has clearly objected the idea, what now you'll make her go through the pregnancy just because his daddy feelings were hurt? I will repeat this till the end, if you don't have a uterus, you have absolutely no right to jump on the conclusion that abortion is wrong. That's like sitting with a bunch of white people asking their definition is racism

There's a reason this is an unpopular opinion

[karter]

Right of the woman over her body vs Right of the crybaby male parent who might not even make a good parent. Oh yeah, you gotta pick your battles

What's really sickening here is that you can judge how a male parent will be like just by his financial stability even though the woman has clearly objected the idea, what now you'll make her go through the pregnancy just because his daddy feelings were hurt? I will repeat this till the end, if you don't have a uterus, you have absolutely no right to jump on the conclusion that abortion is wrong. That's like sitting with a bunch of white people asking their definition is racism

There's a reason this is an unpopular opinion

*of racism woops