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    lets go bulgy bashing

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    Ahhhhhhhhh noooooooo people working make it stop ahhhhhhhh
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    There's absolutely nothing worse than people coming to this country to work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardemax View Post
    There's absolutely nothing worse than people coming to this country to work
    having your nails ripped off with pliers

    or someone doing a smelly fart while you're eating your dinner

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    We've had these debates before and if I recall correctly you simply stopped replying? I think you are greatly exaggerating simply because you hate the EU and want some more ammo.
    No, that was you like when you tried to make the silly comparison between the EU and Monarchy/House of Lords and Ryan and I put you in your place on how it was a crackers comparison.. yet it still didn't stop you bringing it up everytime we bring up the lack of democracy in the EU.

    And what? I'm not exaggerating at all - hence why you've not replied to a word I wrote just then. As I said earlier, the attitudes of you and those in power is simply: let them eat cake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    So, let's have a look at ALL the data...

    By country of birth, number of employed people in the UK between Oct and Dec 2013:

    Total: 30,241,000
    UK: 25,768,000
    Non-UK: 4,457,000
    Non-EU: 2,745,000
    EU: 1,712,000
    Rest of the World: 1,026,000
    Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain and Sweden: 810,000
    Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovak Republic and Slovenia: 728,000
    Africa excluding South Africa: 583,000
    India: 427,000
    Pakistan and Bangladesh: 325,000
    South Africa: 153,000
    Romania and Bulgaria: 144,000
    USA: 101,000

    So, you guys might be worrying about all the 144,000 Romanians and Bulgarians and talking about the EU whilst just ignoring the 2.7million non-Europeans working in the country.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Also, this "surges to a record high" - yes, it did reach a new high. It reached a new high of 144,000 from it's previous high of 141,000.

    The data says absolutely NOTHING about Romanians and Bulgarians migrating to the UK.
    I'm just as critical of that immigration too.

    If you want I can start posting statistics about unemployment rates among Somalians and other nationalities if you would like me too, but you'll have to promise not to call me a racist/xenophobic/Islamophobic.

    This thread however is about Romanian and Bulgarian immigration and how I and others who warned about a large influx were right, and how the Government and the Romanian and Bulgarian Governments were wrong. The start of getting control of our borders back - from both our pathetic government and the EU - is criticsing the present policy failures of which this is one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan
    So, before you moan that they are talking all our jobs, please also mention the Africans, South Africans, Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and frankly, almost the rest of the world.
    But wouldn't that be waycist?

    For example whenever i've made the point before on Islamic mass immigration and the cultural threats Islam poses, all I get from you lot is the retort that I should stop being mean to the Religion of Peace and that Islam and Islamic customs are no different to Christian or Jewish ones. How can one even reason with such insanity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ardemax View Post
    There's absolutely nothing worse than people coming to this country to work
    When it's uncontrolled and we have unemployment problems our own it is.

    Why does this always go back to 'well they work innit' anyway? The social strain, the tension, the dissolution of our culture, the lack of school places, the need for housing, the wage suppression, the unemployment of Britons... is none of this important to any of you? Do you simply not care as Don has made clear?
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    You're either too stubborn or stupid to understand that I was comparing you vilifying one thing for being unelected/undemocratic whilst simultaneously praising another for the very same thing. Not that hard to understand, is it? Ryan didn't read the thread title which was why he thought I was comparing the two, what's your excuse? Using terms like "waycist" isn't clever and doesn't solidify your argument or make your views less xenophobic. Fortunately UKIP are a minority.

    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    No, that was you like when you tried to make the silly comparison between the EU and Monarchy/House of Lords and Ryan and I put you in your place on how it was a crackers comparison.. yet it still didn't stop you bringing it up everytime we bring up the lack of democracy in the EU.

    And what? I'm not exaggerating at all - hence why you've not replied to a word I wrote just then. As I said earlier, the attitudes of you and those in power is simply: let them eat cake.



    I'm just as critical of that immigration too.

    If you want I can start posting statistics about unemployment rates among Somalians and other nationalities if you would like me too, but you'll have to promise not to call me a racist/xenophobic/Islamophobic.

    This thread however is about Romanian and Bulgarian immigration and how I and others who warned about a large influx were right, and how the Government and the Romanian and Bulgarian Governments were wrong.



    But wouldn't that be waycist?

    For example whenever i've made the point before on Islamic mass immigration and the cultural threats Islam poses, all I get from you lot is the retort that I should stop being mean to the Religion of Peace and that Islam and Islamic customs are no different to Christian or Jewish ones. How can one even reason with such insanity?



    When it's uncontrolled and we have unemployment problems our own it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    You're either too stubborn or stupid to understand that I was comparing you vilifying one thing for being unelected/undemocratic whilst simultaneously praising another for the very same thing. Not that hard to understand, is it?
    And you still don't get it.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Don
    Ryan didn't read the thread title which was why he thought I was comparing the two, what's your excuse? Using terms like "waycist" isn't clever and doesn't solidify your argument or make your views less xenophobic. Fortunately UKIP are a minority.
    See? You just prove my point. Whenever somebody in this country questions the influx of hundreds of thousands of people - going into the millions - and presents the concerns that come with it over hospitals, schools, housing, social tensions .... all you can do is resort to calling your opponents names from racist to xenophobic to bigoted just like Gordon Brown.

    Wanting a controlled immigration policy isn't xenophobic or racist and we're going to keep pushing this issue whether you lot like it or not. The Swiss are fighting back as are the Norwegians so GET USED TO IT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    Umm an increase of 3000 isn't a giant influx
    I'm not talking about the increase, i'm talking about the numbers over all. We've been in the midst of a surge for years now when it comes to immigration and yet the PM and others were laughing saying how there's been no such thing when we're in the bloody midst of one.

    The fact that it was still rising when the borders were supposed to be 'controlled' suggests to me that we're in for a very big shock come the end of this year when we find out the post-open borders numbers.
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    Yes you are this whole thread is about the supposed new influx... and ok but what's actually happened is a 2% increase in migration from those areas as opposed to the 40% that's being thrown around in the article - that number is how many more people from those countries are working in the UK which should surely be a reason to celebrate since it means that there's a huge decrease in the benefits they're claiming, which seems to be your worry
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