State schools isolate non-Muslims

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...n-Muslims.html

State schools isolate non-Muslims

Schools in Birmingham discrimate against non-Muslim students and restrict GCSE teaching to fit in with Islamic beliefs, according to official report

Park View school in Birmingham, one of the 25 schools under investigation for alleged infiltration by extremism

Schools in Birmingham are illegally segregating pupils, discriminating against non-Muslim students and restricting the GCSE syllabus to “comply with conservative Islamic teaching”, an official report leaked to The Telegraph discloses.

Department for Education inspectors said that girls in a school at the centre of the so-called “Trojan Horse” plot were forced to sit at the back of the class, some Christian pupils were left to “teach themselves” and an extremist preacher was invited to speak to children.

The report, into three schools in the city, follows weeks of controversy over the alleged plot to “Islamise” secular schools in Birmingham and will lead to calls for intervention. The report focuses on Park View School and its sister schools, Golden Hillock and Nansen, the only primary of the three. Inspectors found that Park View practised forced and discriminatory sex segregation and has “restricted” GCSE subjects “to comply with conservative Islamic teaching”.

Core elements of the GCSE syllabus were missed out as “un-Islamic” and an extremist preacher with known al-Qaeda sympathies and anti-Semitic views was invited to speak with children. At Golden Hillock, there was discrimination against non-Muslims, the report found. Its handful of Christian students “have to teach themselves” in one GCSE subject after the teacher “concentrated on the students who were doing the Islamic course”.

At Nansen, Year 6 children, aged 10 and 11, received no teaching at all in the arts, humanities or music.

The document, classified “official-sensitive”, describes the results of inspections of the schools last month by officials from the DfE. All three are supposedly non-faith schools run by the Park View Educational Trust.

Allegations that radical Muslims were seeking to “Islamise” secular schools in Birmingham first emerged publicly last month in a leaked letter, describing an operation purportedly named “Trojan Horse”.

The letter supposedly described how activists could stir up Muslim parents to oust secular headteachers. Park View and its chairman of governors, Tahir Alam, were named in the letter as being at the centre of the plot. Mr Alam and the school have furiously denied the claims as “fictitious”, “Islamophobic” and a “witch-hunt”.

However, the leaked report substantiates many of the claims made against the school. It accuses Park View of 20 separate breaches of the law, the schools’ funding agreement with the DfE, and the Academy Schools Handbook.

The inspectors found that, contrary to its denials, Park View did practise forced and discriminatory gender segregation, with “boys sitting towards the front of the class and girls at the back or around the sides”.

The school has always claimed that any separation of the sexes was voluntary. However, the report says: “Students told us they were required to sit in the places which they were given by teachers.” This constituted “non-compliance with the Equality Act” and potentially “less favourable treatment for girls”. There was entirely separated teaching, in separate rooms, for some subjects, the report says.

The small number of Christian or non-Muslim pupils also suffered discrimination, the report says.

At Golden Hillock, five Christian students in Year 11 “have to teach themselves” in one GCSE subject, religious education, because the teacher gave all his or her time “to the students who are doing the Islamic course”.

Sheikh Shady al-Suleiman, an extremist preacher who “is known to extol... the stoning of homosexuals, anti-Semitic views [and is] sympathetic to al-Qaeda”, was invited to address students at Park View, the inspectors found.

The core curriculum at the two secondary schools had been Islamised, with GCSE subjects “restricted to comply with conservative Islamic teaching”.

Children told the inspectors that in biology the teacher “briefly delivered the theory of evolution to comply with the syllabus”, but told students that “this is not what we believe”.

In biology, the inspectors also found that “topics such as body structure and the menstrual cycle were not covered in class, though pupils needed them for the GCSE exam . . . students told us that as Muslims they were not allowed to study matters such as reproduction with the opposite sex”. At Park View, a “madrassah curriculum” was followed in personal, health and social education, the report said.

Though all the schools are supposed to be secular, the inspectors said they were not sufficiently welcoming to those of other faiths or no faith, with students at Park View encouraged to “begin and end each lesson with a prayer” and loudspeakers used to “broadcast the call for prayer across the school”.

The report added that the respected non-Muslim headteacher was marginalised, and female staff at one of the schools were treated in a “rude and dismissive” way.

Teaching standards and children’s safety were placed at risk after the schools’ management recruited close relatives, without adequate teaching experience or proper background checks, to key leadership posts.

At Golden Hillock, any discussion of sexual orientation or intimacy was banned, affecting “the broad and balanced teaching of many subjects, including art and English literature”, the inspectors found.

At Nansen, there were “no lessons in the humanities, arts or music” for one entire year, Year 6, and only “limited” teaching in Year 5. Arabic, however, was compulsory for all students — almost unheard of at a primary school.

Female staff at the schools were discriminated against, the report says. “One of the senior leaders [at Nansen] interviewed reported that she had never met a governor or been invited to a governing body meeting, although the male senior leader with similar responsibilities was invited to every meeting”.

At Golden Hillock, three members of staff told inspectors that governors were “rude to women and dismissive of their input” and that some governors “will not shake the hands of female senior leaders”.

The report makes clear that Park View’s most senior female leader, the non-Muslim executive headteacher, Lindsey Clark, had been reduced to a figurehead, marginalised to the extent that she “was unaware of the names of some of the more recent appointments to the senior leadership team” at her own school. Last week, Mrs Clark retired.

All three schools were in reality run by Mr Alam, who had an “inappropriate day-to-day role in the running of the schools” and who received undeclared four-figure payments from them as a “consultant”, the report states.

At Nansen the deputy headteacher, Razwan Faraz, “was appointed deputy only three years after [achieving] qualified teacher status”, the report says. No references from outside the schools were taken up for him.

As The Telegraph revealed last month, Mr Faraz, the brother of a convicted terrorist, is the administrator of a group of teachers, governors and school consultants called Educational Activists which pursues what he calls an “Islamising agenda” in Birmingham schools.

Mr Alam, a leading activist in the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), has a number of hardline views. In evidence for the MCB to the UN’s high commissioner for human rights in 2008, he said he would “caution against advocating that desegregation [in schools] should be actively pursued” and stressed the “obligatory nature” of the hijab for Muslim women and girls.

The disclosures came as Tristram Hunt, the shadow education secretary, prepared to make a strong attack on “divisive” attempts to impose religious values on secular schools.

Speaking at the NASUWT union conference in Birmingham, he was due to say: “We cannot have narrow, religious motives which seek to divide and isolate dictating state schooling. We cannot have headteachers forced out, teachers undermined, curricula rewritten and cultural or gender-based segregation.

“Indeed, it is more important than ever in a modern, multi-cultural city like this one that schooling serves to unite, not fracture communities.”

A spokesman for Park View Educational Trust said: “This is a confidential draft report which the trust is entitled to respond to within a given timescale and it should not have been made public. We are extremely disappointed that our entitlement to confidentiality has been breached and we will not comment any further.”

All so entirely predictable, unless you are a moron (like our politicians). This is why integration should be FORCED.

But you know, there's only so much you can do - with numbers like those that are coming in, including the high birthrate amongst certain groups as well as ghettos having sprung up everywhere - it's only a matter of time before it gets worse and worse and worse. The French are experiencing the same thing, as are the Dutch and the Swedish. The crime, the foreign languages, the discrimination, the 12th century attitudes.

Bring in large numbers of people with third world behaviour and 15th century views and what do you get? Exactly that.

Thoughts? Do you feel 'enriched' by this wonderful diversity? Would you like your kids to be a part of this multicultural paradise?

[The Don]

"Schools in Birmingham are illegally segregating pupils"

This is why religion should be kept out of state schools except taught in R.E

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"Schools in Birmingham are illegally segregating pupils"

Hmmm, and? We can all read m'dear.

Apparently 25 schools are now under investigation - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-27020970

I'm so shocked by all this. Not.

This is why religion should be kept out of state schools except taught in R.E

Tell that to the socially conservative adherants of Islam (not just any 'religion') and see what they think of it.

Well why bother? They've already told you what they think of your laws by totally ignoring them. So what now?

[The Don]

Hmmm, and? We can all read m'dear.

Apparently 25 schools are now under investigation - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-27020970

I'm so shocked by all this. Not.

The actions of the few doesn't mean we should force people to renounce their religions to enter Britain. The people responsible for this in those schools should definitely face responsibility for their actions. It's terrible that the school system would allow for this to happen, although saying things such as 'third world behaviour' is downright racism 'or waycism' as you like to call it. This is a minority, not every muslim is trying to push their agendas, and the vast majority are innocent.

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Tell that to the socially conservative adherants of Islam (not just any 'religion') and see what they think of it.

Well why bother? They've already told you what they think of your laws by totally ignoring them. So what now?

Why would I tell them? they aren't the ones responsible for how state schools are run, the state is...

[FlyingJesus]

"So what now" is that they get investigated for illegal activities and are punished as such. I thought that much would be obvious. There is literally nothing to suggest that anyone in government or with legal authority is happy with this

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The actions of the few doesn't mean we should force people to renounce their religions to enter Britain.

Did I say that?

The people responsible for this in those schools should definitely face responsibility for their actions. It's terrible that the school system would allow for this to happen, although saying things such as 'third world behaviour' is downright racism 'or waycism' as you like to call it.

Unbelievable. You call me a waycist for pointing out that this is third world, 15th century behaviour.

You want me to be nice to hardline Islamists who would like to see my country transformed? When hell freezes over my friend.

This is a minority, not every muslim is trying to push their agendas, and the vast majority are innocent.

Many muslims in western countries, especially where they aren't integrated, agree with these kinds of views as various studies on social attitudes have shown. This is because of a) the sheer numbers coming in & b) lack of integration.

So what now?

Why would I tell them? they aren't the ones responsible for how state schools are run, the state is...

Because you seem to have a lot to say but little on the solutions to stop this happening. The same for the state.

"So what now" is that they get investigated for illegal activities and are punished as such. I thought that much would be obvious. There is literally nothing to suggest that anyone in government or with legal authority is happy with this

Ooooooooh yes, that's really going to teach them.

You really think this thing isn't going to carry on? Of course it is. You will not, with any goodwill in the world, get to the point where these schools and neighbourhoods resemble anything like a normal British school. The area is completely taken over and the Jewish/Christian/other kids have now become the minority as opposed to the other way around.

And thus, integration ceases and you get this sort of thing happening.

[FlyingJesus]

"Normal British school" because all non-Muslim schools are the exact same and are closely bonded with love and peace and Great British righteousness. And if it does continue then more people will get punished for it because it's still illegal. Just about every crime happens at a greater rate of occurrence than this, including isolation happening the other way with non-Christians being set back by their educators, but of course that's fine and dandy while anything other than FOR KING AND COUNTRY is 3rd world scum.

[The Don]

Did I say that?

"This is why integration should be FORCED" kinda implies that son.

Unbelievable. You call me a waycist for pointing out that this is third world, 15th century behaviour.

Read what you wrote, you never said this behaviour is third world behaviour, you said "Bring in large numbers of people with third world behaviour and 15th century views and what do you get?" which implies majority of muslims migrating to Britain behave in a third world manner.

You want me to be nice to hardline Islamists who would like to see my country transformed? When hell freezes over my friend.

Again, classic rhetoric and nothing more, which part of my post asked you to be 'be nice' to those extremists?

Many muslims in western countries, especially where they aren't integrated, agree with these kinds of views as various studies on social attitudes have shown. This is because of a) the sheer numbers coming in & b) lack of integration.

Could you provide links to these 'studies'? I could make claim 'Many UKIP followers have links to extremist, racist organisations which various studies have shown' would you then take my word for that without seeing these studies? No, you wouldn't. Anyone can claim whatever they want, how about you show me the evidence for these claims.

Because you seem to have a lot to say but little on the solutions to stop this happening. The same for the state.

The state is investigating those schools and will punish those held responsible. That seems like a good response.

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"Normal British school" because all non-Muslim schools are the exact same and are closely bonded with love and peace and Great British righteousness.

Yeah, a normal British school. You know, the kind of place whereby they all speak the English language, most are native or at least born here. If I took you to a school in India where all the pupils in the class were Chinese and born overseas and who mainly spoke Chinese/Vietnamese - would you call that a 'normal Indian school'? No, you would not - because it wouldn't be.

Why is there this strange feeling among some Britons that their culture doesn't exist/isn't worth protecting? Self-loathing.

And if it does continue then more people will get punished for it because it's still illegal. Just about every crime happens at a greater rate of occurrence than this, including isolation happening the other way with non-Christians being set back by their educators, but of course that's fine and dandy while anything other than FOR KING AND COUNTRY is 3rd world scum.

Yeah, you believe that. The fact that this has gone on in twenty-five schools (and we only know about this because it's been leaked) goes to show to me that there's been a massive cover up involving a lot of people who either agree with this sort of thing OR are too afraid to say anything that appears to go against the 'Religion of Peace'. Can you blame them though? We've seen what happens when people speak out against or question one particular religion.

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"This is why integration should be FORCED" kinda implies that son.

No it doesn't.

I have made it very clear in the past that integration can only take place provided that immigration from different groups is vastly limited to the low 10,000's. That way, you do not get cultural ghettos springing up where by large numbers of people have no need to interact with the native population. Secondly, the state does not cater for recently arrived immigrants. How? Simple - all forms are provided in English and no other language, all school lessons are taught in English and English only - NO translators are provided at all, and NO forms will be printed in anything other than English. You want a translator? You pay for it.

In such a scenario, the newly arrived have no option but to integrate as they'd find life very difficult if they did not.

Read what you wrote, you never said this behaviour is third world behaviour, you said "Bring in large numbers of people with third world behaviour and 15th century views and what do you get?" which implies majority of muslims migrating to Britain behave in a third world manner.

Who said anything about a majority? I never. Huge numbers of people with extreme views have been brought into Britain though, we know this from the rise of Female Genital Mutiliation, arranged marriages, numbers of young men (into the hundreds) going to fight for al-Qaeda in Syria, mosques that have been caught teaching radical hatred as well as radical preachers gaining a large audience and followers.

The evidence is there. And that's without mentioning all muslims - although the vast majority of muslims are very socially conservative.

Again, classic rhetoric and nothing more, which part of my post asked you to be 'be nice' to those extremists?

You called me racist for saying they're preaching third world behaviour, which they are.

Why should I call it anything else? To appeal to the sensitivities of radical Islamists who hate my culture? No thanks.

Could you provide links to these 'studies'? I could make claim 'Many UKIP followers have links to extremist, racist organisations which various studies have shown' would you then take my word for that without seeing these studies? No, you wouldn't. Anyone can claim whatever they want, how about you show me the evidence for these claims.

I have done time and time again, yet it still didn't stop you lot telling me how Islam had just the same problems as other religions. But here..

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pa...nion-polls.htm

Civitas: 1 in 3 Muslims in the UK strongly agree that a wife should be forced to obey her husband's bidding
http://www.imaginate.uk.com/MCC01_SU...20Download.pdf
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/Sharia...eLawForAll.pdf

BBC Poll: 1 in 10 British Muslims support killing a family member over "dishonor".
http://www.expressandstar.com/blogs/...on-our-nation/

Policy Exchange: 51% of British Muslims believe a woman cannot marry a non-Muslim
Only 51% believe a Muslim woman may marry without a guardian's consent
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/Sharia...eLawForAll.pdf

Policy Exchange: Up to 52% of British Muslims believe a Muslim man is entitled to up to four wives
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/Sharia...eLawForAll.pdf

Policy Exchange: 61% of British Muslims want homosexuality punished
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/Sharia...eLawForAll.pdf

NOP Research: 62% of British Muslims do not believe in the protection of free speech;
Only 3% adopt a "consistently pro-freedom of speech line"
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...ate=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

ICM Poll: 58% of British Muslims believe insulting Islam should result in criminal prosecution
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews...ms%20Nov04.asp
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist

I was going to post seperate links, but that page seems to list various polls (including British muslims attitudes) on various topics, some of which I have posted - although there's tonnes to look through from various social study groups/pollsters. Enjoy.

The state is investigating those schools and will punish those held responsible. That seems like a good response.

lmao okay then.

[FlyingJesus]

Pretty sure British culture is and always has been an amalgamation of everything that we've experienced either as neighbours or invaders. You're absolutely delusional if you think that culture is a constant, and it's not self-loathing to not particularly care about things that I'm told by racists are "good British customs"