News Department Feedback 2k13

[MKR&*42]

I agree from like a page back that you should be checking over spelling errors, but I think you said you were posted away, shouldn't the news team leader be the main one to be doing that as well? Who is the team leader anyway? I can't remember.

Think it is/was drewar i cant remmeber if they resigned

[FlyingJesus]

Like I said, I haven't had a chance to read them on the main site yet. I know for a fact (before you call me out here, they're all posted in a subforum, which I did scroll past checking on my phone one day) there's been more than that though.

2 posted - and despite what you seem to believe, what the public can see is rather important, not just what's hidden away waiting to be processed

Read again: I'm not sure who would be capable of taking over who has the proper footing in News and Content to understand where the plan has emerged from. Not sure who doesn't mean there is noone. Also, you know I've done more than that in 3 months, and we have been forming the plan which will be implemented soon. Oh, and it's only been a month.

To be fair at this point literally anything would be an improvement even closing the department because currently it's just a joke. You've been AGM since the 4th of March that is more than a month

I am in charge. I have been messaging many people and forming the plans. I just don't talk about specifics in a public forum because I don't think it's anyone other than the staff+'s place to know what is happening before it gets announced

I don't think anyone's suggesting that you post constant updates on all of your plans; what people want is for some of them to actually be put in place and not wait so long that something happens to put it all off

People not wanting to join the department (for going on four years now) is MY fault? Having inactive reporters is MY fault? But seriously, I'm fed up of people saying I'm doing nothing when it's ​simply not true.

No, making no changes is your fault. You seem to be of the impression that you're somehow owed a workforce as opposed to having been tasked with working with what actually exists

Don't care about your opinion. Not the job. I care very much about all of the departments I manage, as well as Habbox as a whole, and am putting effort in to better them.

You said "I don't care" in response to a quote from Intersocial about the constant "I've been away" excuses, nothing to do with my opinion. Do try to keep a track of what BS you're throwing and at whom you're throwing it

[lawrawrrr]

Anyway, doing some research I've found that Laura became AGM on 4th March, it's now 20th May, so that's 11 weeks.

At the start of the 11 weeks, Laura was listed as away. Straight after she was away she was listed as 'Limited'.

Then Laura said she was away since Thursday, limited shortly before then too, and looking at her signature she's now limited until Monday.

What are the rules about going 'limited'?

How do you have record of all of this :p I was away due to Students' Union elections when I first got promoted.

My signature is old, I was back yesterday.

I only post on limited instead of away because I still do work when I'm away, just a bit less.

I agree from like a page back that you should be checking over spelling errors, but I think you said you were posted away, shouldn't the news team leader be the main one to be doing that anyway though? Who is the team leader? I can't remember.

Drewar. Yes, he has done a couple.

2 posted - and despite what you seem to believe, what the public can see is rather important, not just what's hidden away waiting to be processed

You're taking what I say out of context! I understand that what's on the site is important. I do. 2 news reports maybe but the department post more than just that

To be fair at this point literally anything would be an improvement even closing the department because currently it's just a joke. You've been AGM since the 4th of March that is more than a month

Only started looking at news plans about a month ago, didn't do much at first to do with news

I don't think anyone's suggesting that you post constant updates on all of your plans; what people want is for some of them to actually be put in place and not wait so long that something happens to put it all off

All of these things have happened pretty much at the second they were ready to go out, I'm not putting it off or waiting at all. If people would reply to me quicker and not resign as soon as it's ready that'd be fantastic and I could get it out tomorrow!

No, making no changes is your fault. You seem to be of the impression that you're somehow owed a workforce as opposed to having been tasked with working with what actually exists

I'm not going to make changes without ensuring it is the best way forward for everyone and that the staff+ agree with it. That's not gonna benefit anyone.

You said "I don't care" in response to a quote from Intersocial about the constant "I've been away" excuses, nothing to do with my opinion. Do try to keep a track of what BS you're throwing and at whom you're throwing it

Yes, I don't care about people's opinions on the work that I do. As long as I know, and the relevant people know, it's OK... then it's OK.

[Kyle]

sick of the aggressive responses to feedback. bolt bumped thread cos he wanted to raise awareness and we hadn't heard anything. no big deal.

you used to be so calm and collected laura, now you're all over the place. I know you're working hard but having a few people skills costs nothing. reign it in pls!

[FlyingJesus]

Drink, drugs, and *REMOVED*

Edited by Bolt660 (Trialist Forum Moderator): Please do not avoid the filter, thanks!

[Inseriousity.]

calm and collected? lol since when. Laura's always been the aggressively defend-my-corner type. Personally, I'd prefer that over the 'I aim to please everyone' type.

Just out of curiousity but what was the idea that caused a revolt? Change naturally results in a little rebellion. A catchphrase I had as AGM was 'it's not up for discussion' because sometimes you need to push these things through. Radical change is needed rather than toning things down. I say this as a general thing about Habbox. So much is toned down to the point where it's not even worth the change so things are changed back to how it was and then management can hold their hands up and say 'oh well we tried' rather than y'know actually being creative and thinking of new ideas (still waiting for the action plan and I know it's because of this).

As for news specifically, I don't envy you at all. It is definitely a tough department but as its close to death, see it as liberating. It gives you the freedom and the opportunity to do practically anything with little danger of actually making things worse.

[James]

why not just hire a news manager?

[Rachel]

why not just hire a news manager?

One of the changes was to put News Team Leader instead of News Manager ( well if I am correct). News Team Leader has the same duties as the News Manager probably. I don't think this will happen anytime soon.

As for Laura, I personally think she has done brilliant work in all the roles she had so far including the AGM role. She is doing her best to improve the department itself. You might not be aware of what she is doing but I know and other Managers knows how much she does for the team and for Habbox overall. Get in her shoes before judging please!

[Samantha]

why not just hire a news manager?

There have been 3 managers in the last 6 or so months that have tried improve News to get it somewhat like what it was, but to no avail. I agree with Mike, News is an extremely tough department to manage especially with a lack of staff or no motivation to write - that's when even more pressure is put on the senior members of the department as the manager usually would like reports on that front page constantly, or as soon as news is available. The News Team Leader is virtually speaking the 'News Manager' to an extent as they have a lot of the same responsibilities, but it's not set in stone due to the many plans that have been thought of and nearly trialled through the last couple of months.

A lot of things have happened like Laura outlined - things occur such as resignations, lack of communication from either Sulake, management etc. and it gets delayed a lot. It happens in a lot of departments, but sometimes because they're doing better than News it doesn't show as much.

I PMed Drewar a couple of weeks ago about an article and that was dealt with. I'll take some of the blame for not checking News though as I saw one and I was annoyed just by how many mistakes there were in it! Unfortunately, I thought I'd PMed Drew again about it (looking back, I can't find it, so I guess I didn't), but the one I saw was edited anyway! The News should primarily be checked by the senior team in News which is Drew at the moment - but I know all 4 of the GM team can pitch in.

[Kardan]

Can someone explain what the difference between a news manager and a news team leader is then? By the sounds of it, all I can tell is that the news team leader doesn't have to check the work.