Sexually frustrated shooter kills seven

[The Don]

Pretty much all of it where you ignore he has Aspergers and also where you think it is acceptable for parents to ignore their children who have the disorder. Having the disorder doesn't stop him from making decisions (seeing as he drove a car and shot dead people makes it pretty obvious so not sure why you said that), but parents are always advised to keep a watchful eye because of the dire issue of maybe this happening. The fact you ignore everything I've said about the parents:

1) Not informing the authorities
2) Having him live away from home
3) Chucking cars and money at him making him think he was entitled to everything.
4) Generally shrugging off the videos as being "worrying" without really taking any action themselves other than phoning the police suggesting "he's not their problem" given the fact they under 1)

...suggests you are not aware of the syndrome and what is expected of families, schools, friends and authorities when dealing with these issues.

It wouldn't surprise me they were embarrassed of the disorder and just let him run riot - ignorant of what the world might do to him and eventually led him to act.


I watched about a minute and decided she's a stupid girl trying to get some popularity out of a far complex issue than her mind can digest. "You want madness? This is madness!" and she asks "If he was mentally ill or had something wrong is yet to be seen". Clearly she's not read any article. She then goes on some neo-feministic rampage of self-righteousness. Yet to see her mention any sort of disorder and.... I've given up. She started talking about how masculinity refers to the social expectations that anyone with a penis is raised with. Sexist idiot. She also thinks masculinity is reserved for heterosexual males and that all straight men repress their feelings. Loads of blanket, tarring with the same brush statements for an already non-credible person.

Slap round the face, F- try again another day.

1) Not informing the authorities They did inform the authorities. Whether they said he had Aspergers is not known, unless you have some sort of citation to back that up?

2) Having him live away from home He went to college, Thousands and thousands of Autistic students live away from home for College. I have a feeling you don't understand what Aspergers is because you seem to think people with it shouldn't be granted independence by their parents and shouldn't be allowed to live alone or have a car.

3) Chucking cars and money at him making him think he was entitled to everything. Chucking cars and money at him? They bought him one car and a little bit of money. Do you think people with aspergers are not entitled to a car as a gift from their parents? I'm fairly confident that being given a car and some money isn't the cause of his actions or his hatred for the world. From his manifesto he seemed to be incredibly narcissistic which is a mental disorder in itself and wouldn't have been caused from mommy and daddy giving him a bmw.

4) Generally shrugging off the videos as being "worrying" without really taking any action themselves other than phoning the police suggesting "he's not their problem" given the fact they under 1) What else do you want them to have done? The videos they reported to the police are NOT the same one where he explains what he's going to do in this incident or talks about retribution. The ones they saw were the 'tamer' ones where he discuss being a virgin. Although alarming (which is why they reported him to the police, duh) it's not going to give someone the foresight that he's going to go out and shoot up a college campus. There's thousands of videos that are similar on youtube, I bet, and how many of those can be linked to a mass shooting? It's all good in hindsight wagging your finger and saying the parents should have done more but they didn't have a crystal ball and couldn't see what was going to happen.

[FlyingJesus]

I hope they've got the shooter and locked him up for good

He was either shot down by police when he opened fire on them or killed himself as they approached, I'm not certain that it's been identified which

[akeel$]

He was either shot down by police when he opened fire on them or killed himself as they approached, I'm not certain that it's been identified which

Wow that's awful. He should deserve to go to prison for the rest of his life but getting killed / killing himself. That's kind of not right :/ all the same killing seven people they would've probably given him a life sentence so in my opinion his life being taken away was an awful yet lucky escape. If you're reading this right now and believe in a God then. He's probably gone to hell.

[GoldenMerc]

Believe he was wounded by police, then topped himself.

Either way the video's are different and we've certainly never seen anything like this before.

[GommeInc]

1) Not informing the authorities They did inform the authorities. Whether they said he had Aspergers is not known, unless you have some sort of citation to back that up?

2) Having him live away from home He went to college, Thousands and thousands of Autistic students live away from home for College. I have a feeling you don't understand what Aspergers is because you seem to think people with it shouldn't be granted independence by their parents and shouldn't be allowed to live alone or have a car.

3) Chucking cars and money at him making him think he was entitled to everything. Chucking cars and money at him? They bought him one car and a little bit of money. Do you think people with aspergers are not entitled to a car as a gift from their parents? I'm fairly confident that being given a car and some money isn't the cause of his actions or his hatred for the world. From his manifesto he seemed to be incredibly narcissistic which is a mental disorder in itself and wouldn't have been caused from mommy and daddy giving him a bmw.

4) Generally shrugging off the videos as being "worrying" without really taking any action themselves other than phoning the police suggesting "he's not their problem" given the fact they under 1) What else do you want them to have done? The videos they reported to the police are NOT the same one where he explains what he's going to do in this incident or talks about retribution. The ones they saw were the 'tamer' ones where he discuss being a virgin. Although alarming (which is why they reported him to the police, duh) it's not going to give someone the foresight that he's going to go out and shoot up a college campus. There's thousands of videos that are similar on youtube, I bet, and how many of those can be linked to a mass shooting? It's all good in hindsight wagging your finger and saying the parents should have done more but they didn't have a crystal ball and couldn't see what was going to happen.

1) Then clearly the authorities are to blame or the parents for not taking preventative measures.

2) Clearly the parents or the college are to blame for not taking greater action to keep an eye on him.

3) Not if they're unstable. It's been reported and argued many times he felt entitled to everything. Given how he was made to feel entitled by his parents and appears to of had little involvement with his parents or had any sort of guardian looking after him this does suggest why he felt he was entitled to winning the lottery and being upset when this did not happen and being liked by girls. It's sort of a big thing with Aspergers, yet you seem to not understand this.

4) The videos they reported to the police are ones which were considered worrying by the parents and are constantly being cited as alarming. They shrugged it off and appear to not have informed the authorities about his disorder, otherwise greater action would have been taken.

You watched about a minute? She didn't say most of what you've mentioned until later in the video lol. As I said, I haven't read the debate you've all been having but are you one of the people who are saying "oh he did it because he has Aspergers"?

I had it on in the background and decided after a minute what an idiot she was - sexist, ignorant of the facts and just some attention seeking individual using the events to boost her popularity. Her message wasn't informative and was just useless. Her shrugs and cleavage wasn't exactly appealing and somewhat goes against what she was trying to say, too

Also I did not say he did this because he had aspergers, I said it's likely it was a huge cause seeing as he has textbook behaviour of someone who has the symptoms of the disorder.

Any simple internet search and you will discover how many murderers have/were diagnosed with Aspergers. It's why a big disorder which can be the cause for a lot of rage in sufferers, and his reaction was textbook but on a larger scale.

Okay so I've not read all these posts am I missing something? He was Autistic but I know lots of people who are Autistic who have their own life and are fine. I know an Autistic person who runs his own company for example. Autistic people are often just like me and you they just see things sometimes slightly different but that doesn't mean they don't know right from wrong.

No one has said all people with autism are mass-murderers... Also, this is Aspergers which is quite a serious form of autism which by definition effects how someone can perceive right from wrong

[!:random!:!]

might be a bit late but rip to the people who died

[le harry]

i posted in a couple of the threads he made on bodybuilding.com.

everyone thought he was an elaborate troll srs, did not gather an ounce of sympathy. i even said a few mean things haha, oh well what's done is done. 140 page manifesto, he had this planned for a long time.

[peteyt]

1) No one has said all people with autism are mass-murderers... Also, this is Aspergers which is quite a serious form of autism which by definition effects how someone can perceive right from wrong

The problem is Autism and I believe Aspergers are the same in the sense that there isn't one level some people can have it really bad some people can have it where its practically non existent. That's what a lot of people don't get it because of the fact there isn't a general type. Also adults can find out later on they have autism so it can't be that bad.

What you seem to be saying, or at least what it is reading as, is that people with Aspergers should be viewed with danger at all times and shouldn't have full responsibility of their lives and if we don't monitor them 24/7 they might turn into a killer.

There's actually articles online claiming he was never properly diagnosed with aspergers and I've seen the mention of some weight lifting supplement and steroids.

The problem is that people sometimes can't accept people are evil and when something like this happens they will look for a reason and then blame everyone for not seeing the signs. If I went on a killing spree people would look at my extensive horror collection and claim that I was obviously sick in the head, had some horror posters up and obviously had problems with violence. But actually on the contrary, I dislike violence in the real world and would always avoid a fight, but I do love horror films for entertainment and I suppose a form of escapism. But when something like this happens it's very easy to see things like these as something they're not.

[buttons]

i posted in a couple of the threads he made on bodybuilding.com.

everyone thought he was an elaborate troll srs, did not gather an ounce of sympathy. i even said a few mean things haha, oh well what's done is done. 140 page manifesto, he had this planned for a long time.

what his username on there? had a google and threads linked to his name seem to have been removed

[wixard]

what his username on there? had a google and threads linked to his name seem to have been removed

they removed them all but i'll get links for you one sec just on the phone