Action Plan

[FlyingJesus]

Actually you're completely wrong. Granted, you haven't SEEN anything that they have produced but it doesn't mean that they do nothing.

I'm so glad that they've done loads of stuff that's never been used, that makes everything worthwhile

Did you ever stop to think that there might be a reason she skimmed it?

Ya being lazy. Also it was a joke, a humorous comment on the juxtaposition of two seemingly contradictory clauses

[scottish]

The whole thing about everything having to be kept a secret at Habbox really bugs me. I understand it's exciting to keep us in the dark and then surprise us, but you could literally just say 'Big event organised by the Competitions department coming soon'. That gives us nothing but still lets us know you're doing something.

One of the main reasons people are so harsh in feedback threads is because it LOOKS like management/general management do nothing all the time. I understand you are doing things, but it's frustrating for us because we don't know this. The entire community of Habbox should be involved more. Like Mike said, perhaps old ideas wouldn't have fallen through if there had been more people to contribute their ideas. Two heads are better than one. And a couple of hundred heads are better than three.

No matter what happens with V7 whether it kept in the dark until last minute, or they reveal bit by bit the overall is going to be so disappointing.

The fact we've waiting 4 years for it or however long we have, it's just going to be such a disappointing product when it is revealed because the time it took, imho.

[Inseriousity.]

Projects for the year since the last thread
I am doing these from memory and also not including short-term events. Only the things that are long-term (or intended to be).

Achievements System (Chris)
The Box (Laura)
Official Rooms (Jade/Sam/Shoned)
Staff Challenges (Chris)
News department changes (Laura)

I can't really think of anything else but you're free to refresh my memory. Even if that's true, that means there's been 2 things put in place for each AGM in the whole year. For all I know, you could've been working on several ideas, had plans and ideas ready to go but things got in the way and they slipped down the list of priorities. That means you'd have 5 ideas we'd never heard of and we'd never know if one of them was the diamond in the rough because you're secretly guarding it as if its some precious item. Much better to have an idea released and everyone know about it than not released and nobody know about it, especially if it's the idea that could turn Habbox around. So I do not mean lazy in the sense that you do absolutely nothing, I mean lazy in the sense that if an idea becomes too difficult, it's swept under the rug and left there and it's lazy that it's possible to get away with that and no accountability in place to provide some momentum or help if it's needed.

[Lewis]

I agree that there should be an action plan. I think if more things were in the public, it'd help to motivate you in some aspects to get things done quicker, rather than keeping every single part of your job a secret, since the community are actually expecting it. That basically means if you were just to stop putting effort into it, there could be a possibility others don't want that to be the case and help to motivate you to get things done by knowing people actually want it.

Of course not everything can be told to everyone and not everything will go according to plan, but it'd be nice to see more of the stuff behind the scenes, for not only the community's purpose but yours too.

Only a little bit in The Box dedicated to do the above isn't really enough I think. (what's it called, past/present/future? there might be another bit, i'm not sure)

[Chris]

I'm so glad that they've done loads of stuff that's never been used, that makes everything worthwhile



Ya being lazy. Also it was a joke, a humorous comment on the juxtaposition of two seemingly contradictory clauses

Well you'll have to have a little bit more patience. We all want V7 to hurry up, but as you can see it takes a lot of time.

Bad joke.

[Inseriousity.]

Strange but not surprising to see general management dodge round the issue of posting 1.

[FlyingJesus]

Well you'll have to have a little bit more patience. We all want V7 to hurry up, but as you can see it takes a lot of time.

Bad joke.

It's been forever already, I think people have been far more patient than anyone other than Duke Nukem and Dr Dre fans have ever been. You're making a basic change to a website, not building the pyramids, and the delays have already had monstrous effect on several departments which are now completely failing because they've been unable to adapt to changes in their fields because upper management has for YEARS now held everything back on the promise of an unnecessary total overhaul. We've also known for years that it wasn't going to be a quick job, so other much needed updates being cancelled while waiting for it has been complete nonsense

Apologies for your lack of humour

[Chris]

You're making a basic change to a website

Thats enough to tell me that you don't know that you're talking about.

[Adam]

Thats enough to tell me that you don't know that you're talking about.

It takes 9 months for a baby to be born but 2 years for a website about Habbo to be built? You're talking out yer arse.

[lawrawrrr]

I skimmed the thread because I was at work and I'm not allowed to use my phone so the fact I read it straight away is actually quite surprising?

After having read it fully I don't really have much else to add from what I said earlier.

AGM work is project-based
Yes maybe but it doesn't mean we're not doing it or just leaving it till later "just because". We all discuss with each other what's going on and ask each other where the projects are at so we have that encouragement - I'm absolutely not posting every idea I have on the forum for the public to see until it's ready for the public to be seen.

The feedback forum is not a pack of vultures
Well that depends on your point of view really But seriously, I take what's said in Feedback very seriously and do take on board what's said and try to implement it. However, sometimes it's not very possible! But really the reason the "action plan" hasn't been released is that there isn't one to release and I really think you need to get it into your head there will not ever be one to release.

If members want to criticise my workload they can go ahead as far as I'm concerned, I know how much work I do and the people who know me know that too. I don't need to post a complete list of every single minute thing I do to get that validation. I can't really think of an example where we've completely backtracked on a project screaming "aah it's too difficult" because we all take on challenges.

Lack of ideas
Well right now I have one idea which will come to fruition in January and one that I've only really started to research recently which could take another 6 months to exist. There are smaller ideas for each department as well which I relay to the managers - all these have time dedicated to them and a time frame on my personal files, but once again, I don't see any benefit to posting these to the public whatsoever.

Got to keep everything a secret
Got to? No. Prefer to not release stuff before? Yes. Why didn't you release all the information about the Hunger Games before, Mike? That's EXACTLY the same reason we don't publish stuff before it's ready. We have plenty of failed ideas and I don't deny those at all, and if a "secret" project (I use the quotation marks as secret is not exactly how I'd term it, it's just not public, like every organisation ever does, we don't publish things while they're still in the planning stages) does fail, I will admit it quite readily if it comes up. We don't need the public to "kick us up the butt" because we all work incredibly hard and tirelessly to do these things to start with, and the insinuation that we're lazy is actually fairly offensive.

Habbox needs radical action
Yup, I agree, and I think I've been fairly radical since I came into the role - I actually made sure the new Articles department worked and although it isn't perfect, it's a lot more relevant now than it used to be, the community are actually getting involved in things. RV changes are just being born now, so I'm hoping the same will happen soon, and there's some more plans in the pipeline to expand the Rares department too.

We're not careless, we are not lazy, we are accountable and will admit fault where there is some. There's a lot to do and so much potential, but we're 3 people, and if we don't have the managers to support us, we can't work miracles. I've tried really hard recently to get back in touch with staff and actually try to chat to them, nuture the good ones and carve a position for them as they are Habbox's future.

Since I became AGM, I've done the following "big projects"
• Revamp articles
• Oversee RV reforms (Dan did most of the work but I advised every time)
• Co-ordinate and design the Box every month (and write about 80% of it when noone steps forward to help, when I could just give up and actually get some sleep for that week)
• Help out with all Habbo events, making one all myself - we do this as an AGM team and it doesn't all fall to Sho
• Start the Design a Room comp

As well as the normal stuff we do, such as writing department reports, chipping in while managers are away, helping out staff members, doing some normal content department work, discussing promotions and ideas for events and things and reading feedback and turning it into condensed action points for managers.

I've also tried the following, and although I wouldn't use the word 'fail', they haven't come to fruition yet:
• Pestering about getting V7 out, offering to pay for a coder out of my own pocket
• The last of the RV changes dependent on user feedback
• Within Articles, Guest Writers, although myself and @bikini; have spoken about this and are working on it soon
• Management guides (just haven't had time)

The things I will be looking at in the next few weeks and months are focusing on Content, as I've done a lot of work with RV and Articles so it's fair to try and boost that as much as possible and a community event which will come out in January, which I am not releasing more information about yet. That's the closest you'll EVER get to me publishing an action plan.