The shop and tokens.

[scottish]

I think the shop needs a massive overhaul as well as tokens.

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First things first, the shop. I'm sure you're able to create cataogires (so it would show under different headings on the shop) this should be put to use. So for example tab 1 could be 'VIP', tab 2 'Habbo', etc.

under each section would have the appropriate items, rather than having everything under the one heading 'Shop'

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Within the shop, there's currently 3 things you can buy, credits, VIP or a name change.. there really needs to be more in my opinion.

Some that I've seen elsewhere have been;

Username/VIP Colour
- Add the option of changing your VIP/Username colour (so for example if I have a year of VIP Dodger Blue I can change it to VIP Black)
- I know this is currently done for free depending on the situation, but could be told to refer to shop in future and have to earn tokens to do it.
- Would obviously be a one-off purchase

Usertitle Colour
- Would change your current usertitle to a list of pre-defined colours or you could enter a hex/rgb.
- This would obviously be more for non VIP's, as VIP's have access to the HTML usertitles via the request thread
- Not sure on the time span, if it should just be a 'buy now and have forever' kinda thing or monthly.

Usertitle Change
- Would allow you to change your usertitle to a non HTML message
- This would obviously be more for non VIP/Donators (correct me if I'm wrong, donators can change their usertitle via options, just no HTML?)
- Again, not sure if it should be a one off purchase or monthly.

Avatar Size Change
- Would allow you to purchase larger avatars
- Obviously the size would be pre-defined and wouldn't be something stupid.
- One-off purchase.

Signature Size Change
- Would allow you to purchase larger signature sizes
- Obviously the size would be pre-defined and wouldn't be something stupid.
- One-off purchase.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you can't afford to give out credits don't just have them sitting in there for the looks.

It's become obvious you can't keep up with the demand of credits if you're removing the Sack from sale as well.

If you have the funds to support the shop then have a monthly sale when people will know that there's going to be a stock of gold bars and sacks to purchase, otherwise remove them.

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- I believe vBShop comes with a built in lottery feature? So it would probably be easier to do a lottery than a raffle, but both would be good and something that's actually making tokens useful.
- I don't think I need to explain lottery, but basically every week (or month) there would be a lottery draw, the draw prize could be the tokens from every single ticket add 10% or something, or just all tokens from the tickets.

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Add icons for everything, ALWAYS.

For name change you could have a gif (if possible) of a name changing, or just have old name above arrow new name or something, be creative. Donator/VIP 3 month needs tokens too.

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Is this possible with your version of vBShop or only the Pro version? I'm sure one allowed you to trade points with other members. Would it be possible to enable this if it is on your version, if not explain why so I can counter it

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I'm not sure if it's just me that sees the amount of tokens given out awfully low? in terms of major events and other stuff.

Firstly, why doesn't competitions give our tokens? They seem to mostly give out weeks/months of VIP, rep and credits.

Do events/HxHD/HxL etc actively give out tokens? if no why not. It's something that would make people actually realize their existence and possibly even start trying to get them.

I've already suggested to @Phil; for the forum to start using tokens for the weekly Posting stats for top 5 users (whether it's implemented or not is another question)

Adding on from that, I think the tokens given out should be substantially increased, I can't give an actual average as the only place I've seen tokens given out was the HxL Karaoke, but based on it being a quite large event (in the sense it's over weeks (i'd imagine I've not actually looked) rather than something that's done with and dusted within an hour), top place got 100 tokens, second 75 tokens and third 50.

That's essentially 20 1 word reply posts worth of tokens (or 10 on happy hour) for winning a somewhat large event. It's stupid low don't you think?

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On a completely other suggestion, maybe a 18+ forum which allows you to bypass the filter and you have to purchase the password to this forum via tokens (I know there's an item type: forum password in vbShop) not sure if it would be easier to do with password or via a purchasable permission, but still. But I know this will be shot down

I put spoilers in midway through writing this so if something's out of place let me know, then I got distracted 3/4 the way through writing it, so again if something doesn't make sense then just ask.

[Chris]

Santa doesn't visit little boys who aren't in bed by 12, Scott. You better get a move on.

Anyway, some good suggestions here but I'm not sure if everything will be possible due to the limitations of the plugin. I'm sure Phil and Nick will give you a good reply once Christmas is over.

[scottish]

I'll sleep at like 3am it's all good.

All the presents are on my other bed so I have them anyway

Yeah I'm not sure if you have vBShop Lite or Pro, and what each version limits.

[Chris]

We have the lite version so we'll be missing some of those features.

[Phil]

I've read through the suggestions and the reply will be quite long so you may wait until after xmas!!

Happy Christmas ~

[e5]

Not read all your points but read the first one - the sig/avatar one would be a pain for us mods as we wouldn't know who is entitled to what!! Haha but I definitely think a shop overhaul and additions are a must!

[scottish]

Do you not have access to check what each user has purchased through the shop, or do only admins have that?

Maybe (if that addon doesn't support it) @Chippiewill; can make a plugin that shows on the mod CP a list of users who have what in terms of items that'll make a difference to moderation.

So you can simply consult a list if something's oversized etc.

[Richie]

Categories
Good suggestion, I don't see why this wouldn't be implemented, unless it physically can't be without designing a new plugin.



Items for the pointshop
They definitely need to add more to the shop, I don't think avatar / signature size increases would be good, they're large enough imo.


Credits
Agreed, the shop should be reset monthly rather than have gold bars out of stock for an endless amount of time. If you can't give away at least 10 gold bars in a monthly sale on a continuous basic, remove said item.


Lottery / Raffle
I don't care


Icons
I don't care unless they suggest adding the vanerama builders head as an icon on the forum!! @scottish;


Trading
Why would users need to trade points with one another? It'll just turn into people asking others for tokens so they can have the highest amount of tokens on the forum. It isn't necessary. Even if you argue they won't, the whole point of the token scheme is to give back to those who actively participate in events / competitions / other things that better habbox activity.


Chancing my luck
Doubt it'll ever happen, users should ideally just be able to turn the filter on / off like they can do on habbo. Set it as active by default. All is grand! @Phil;

[Chippiewill]

Chancing my luck
Doubt it'll ever happen, users should ideally just be able to turn the filter on / off like they can do on habbo. Set it as active by default. All is grand! @Phil;

It would slow down the forum as you'd have to re-filter up-to 40 posts a page. Given the size of the profanity list I don't think this is advisable.

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Maybe (if that addon doesn't support it) @Chippiewill; can make a plugin that shows on the mod CP a list of users who have what in terms of items that'll make a difference to moderation.

I was planning on making a browser extension to automatically red-flag a user if their dimensions were off.

[Inseriousity.]

The HxL Karaoke thing was just for the day, I'm assuming cos of the 12 days of christmas event, it was decided to restrict it to the day, which is slightly weird (or it just wasn't advertised very well). The thing about forum prizes is that it should always be more worthwhile to gain them via posting. Yes, 10 rep is low for competitions. there are many people on the forum who could rep you double, triple that but that's how it should be. Similar thing with tokens, it should be easier to gain them through posts than comps/big events. I think we can tell from the achievements system, staff challenges and maybe the christmas challenges thing (haven't really got any indication of how well that did) that no-one gives a toss about tokens as a prize. I imagine that is largely down to the lack of good stuff in there and also am guessing that's the reason the comps department have so far ignored them.

As for trading, I agree with Richie.

As for credits, I think that was added to the shop when there was a lottery so it should be removed really or a better system put in place.

As for the 18+ forum, Habbox is already too 18+, it needs to be encouraging more younger people not isolating itself even more.