Arcade

[Inseriousity.]

The scores are not stupidly high. They are achieveable within the context of the game itself.

There are:

Member of the Month
100 posts of the Week
Happy Hour
Posting comps (although these are rare now).

There is no evidence to suggest that these advertising/competitions have provided any incentive to get people to post extra... apart from the people that already post to begin with. The same principle applies with the arcade and it would be stupid to reset it completely, never mind reset it every 3 months. "Oh don't bother trying to get any score at all on there, it'll be gone soon"

Surely it might actually create more competition if the forum actively encourages people to beat somebody, especially if that person is somebody people aren't too fond of. "That Mike is a *****, the person who beats him or gets the closest in the month of January wins []" same comp without the stupid reset. Lewis and I have an ongoing rivalry over the game Ping Pong II because we were competing with each other for the best score. You only need to look at the first couple of pages in the hiscores of that game to show that this approach does generate more activity.

You never use the arcade because you have no interest in it to begin with.

[Nick]

ibproaracde has a tournament system (i think) if we get it then we can do tournaments instead of 2v2

[Chris]

Wasn't the old arcade removed due to a security loophole? Would be nice to have the old tournaments system again as that was superior to the current one, but to be honest I don't think there is enough demand for the old arcade to warrant changing it at the cost of everyones scores unless it can actually be imported.

[scottish]

The scores are not stupidly high. They are achieveable within the context of the game itself.

There are:

Member of the Month
100 posts of the Week
Happy Hour
Posting comps (although these are rare now).

There is no evidence to suggest that these advertising/competitions have provided any incentive to get people to post extra... apart from the people that already post to begin with. The same principle applies with the arcade and it would be stupid to reset it completely, never mind reset it every 3 months. "Oh don't bother trying to get any score at all on there, it'll be gone soon"

Surely it might actually create more competition if the forum actively encourages people to beat somebody, especially if that person is somebody people aren't too fond of. "That Mike is a *****, the person who beats him or gets the closest in the month of January wins []" same comp without the stupid reset. Lewis and I have an ongoing rivalry over the game Ping Pong II because we were competing with each other for the best score. You only need to look at the first couple of pages in the hiscores of that game to show that this approach does generate more activity.

You never use the arcade because you have no interest in it to begin with.

They are achievable, if you want to spent 3 months playing the game to master every technique. Like you said yourself you took 1000 goes on one game..

Member of the Month - isn't made for quantity of posts, it's for quality isn't it?
Weekly posting stats - no-one actually achieves this
Happy Hour - it does increase posts from what I've seen, and it's very rarely actually done
Posting comps - these exist?

Resetting score will both increase new people using it and old, as the old people will try to re-get their scores and new people will attempt to get a high score too. Rather than how it is now with everyone stupidly high score and maybe 1 person playing it a week to try and improve their score (like yourself).

No, that won't create competition as it's not a realistic score if you've spent 2 years achieving that score and they have 1 month.

I have no interest in playing the Arcade because the scores are stupidly high as you's have been spending years to achieve the scores that you now have. I understand you're obviously going to oppose the idea as you've spent months/years practising the same games to attempt to get a high score. I don't want to play something if it's going to take me a month of mastering, 1000+ plays to attempt to get anywhere near a high score.

At the end of the day, the arcade is dead and will remain that way unless it's done. Whether you agree with the changes or not, it won't change that fact.

[Nick]

Wasn't the old arcade removed due to a security loophole? Would be nice to have the old tournaments system again as that was superior to the current one, but to be honest I don't think there is enough demand for the old arcade to warrant changing it at the cost of everyones scores unless it can actually be imported.

Is Scotts demand not enough :Laughing::Laughing:

[scottish]

ibproaracde has a tournament system (i think) if we get it then we can do tournaments instead of 2v2

1v1

Wasn't the old arcade removed due to a security loophole? Would be nice to have the old tournaments system again as that was superior to the current one, but to be honest I don't think there is enough demand for the old arcade to warrant changing it at the cost of everyones scores unless it can actually be imported.

I'm not sure, I asked MattG earlier and he said he thought it was a security problem, and after checking the ibProArcade it said it was updated in Feb 2012 and suggested everyone update to it due to previous versions having a security exploit, so it may have been fixed in that version.

[Inseriousity.]

The arcade is far from dead just because you don't play it. Would Lewis play the Ball a Track game so much today were it not for the challenge involved in trying to beat a high score? Probably not. Would I have played Asteroids so many times were it not for the challenge involved in trying to beat a high score? Definitely not.

I have not spent months/years practicing these games. I have played some of them. Some games I have been lucky and managed to get the highscore within the week. Others have been more of a challenge (I believe these are a minority of games though and not a reason to justify a reset). There is absolutely no evidence that it'll attract new members to play and older members to return. Should we start resetting post count every 3 months just so newer members feel more encouraged to post? Or would that actually have the opposite effect if their post count is just going to be reset anyway? The evidence on posting suggests that these long-term posting competitions do not actually encourage long-term posting with the people who already post consistently achieving the prizes intended to encourage those who don't. The same will happen to the arcade.

[scottish]

The arcade is far from dead just because you don't play it. Would Lewis play the Ball a Track game so much today were it not for the challenge involved in trying to beat a high score? Probably not. Would I have played Asteroids so many times were it not for the challenge involved in trying to beat a high score? Definitely not.

I have not spent months/years practicing these games. I have played some of them. Some games I have been lucky and managed to get the highscore within the week. Others have been more of a challenge (I believe these are a minority of games though and not a reason to justify a reset). There is absolutely no evidence that it'll attract new members to play and older members to return. Should we start resetting post count every 3 months just so newer members feel more encouraged to post? Or would that actually have the opposite effect if their post count is just going to be reset anyway? The evidence on posting suggests that these long-term posting competitions do not actually encourage long-term posting with the people who already post consistently achieving the prizes intended to encourage those who don't. The same will happen to the arcade.

The arcade is far from dead?

There's what 3 active users? and even then let's see
Ms.Aquamarine - 6 Jan a few tries
Lewis - 6 Jan, 4 tries
Lewis - 3rd Jan, 7 tries
Ms.Aquamarine - 3rd Jan, 1 try
Lewis - 2 Jan, quite a few tries


Yes, you Ms.Aquamarine and Lewis might have a back and forward thing, but that doesn't mean it not dead.

I'm not simply suggesting let's reset the score, it's combined with other factors to increase the publicity of it, rather than leaving it dead with 3 active people a month and refusing to change anything because 1 or more of those 3 would be upset that their progress would be gone.

Post count is nothing to do with an arcade, an arcade is for competitiveness and beating the high score. A post count is a running total of how many times you've posted, nothing to do with competitiveness? You play a game to get a high score and beat other people, you don't join a forum to get the #1 post count.. completely irrelevant.

[MKR&*42]

no need to reset scores tbh how silly

add more games, advertise it, host more big tournaments (mentioned this in a feedback thred not too long ago) offer rewards etc and activity in it will increase.

the only reason it's dead is cause no1 i s promoting it

[Inseriousity.]

Okay I'll explain another way:

Your argument: Resetting the arcade will encourage new members to play and older members to retain their score:

Option 1: Reset the arcade every 3 months.

The older members won't bother to retain their score if their effort is just going to be wasted in 3 months time.
The newer members will use the arcade then not bother (see above) once the 3 months is up.
And so on and so on until no-one's using it.

Option 2: Reset the arcade as a one off

The older members will still have the training from months/years "playing the game to master every technique" so will retain their high score in time, possibly even within the week and possibly with a higher score than before the reset because they won't have necessarily bothered trying to beat it again.
The newer members will play for a while until that process is complete.
The arcade is returned back to its original state.

I'm not saying you have to do nothing (my original post in this thread was a joke btw). I see no problem with adding new games, creating tournaments, having little competitions (although I would change them slightly from your original proposal). I am arguing with the options above that any sort of reset system within the arcade will not solve any issues.

If it is true as you say that the arcade is for "competitiveness and beating the high score", then me, rosy, Lewis being "upset that [our] progress has gone" is false because it's not "progress" being at the top. That's called winning and you're just a bad loser if you have to reset the score to zero to beat it.