Arcade

[Inseriousity.]

If it was reset previously and the arcade is in the position it's in now then isn't that just further proof that a reset does not solve the issue of activity. It's the other factors involved, primarily advertising.

The only thing that's wrong is that it's not really the people against the scores reset saying to import them. Pretty sure that was management saying it. I am arguing on a point of principle that a score reset wouldn't work (I have always argued against ideas that are suggested to fix a problem that wouldn't actually fix a problem!). If forum/general management are convinced by your argument instead and choose to do a reset then that is up to them and I would at least applaud them for making a decision even if I did think it is the wrong one that wouldn't solve anything and effort would be better spent on advertising and the other initiatives you have suggested.

[The Don]

who says it has to be relevant?

the fact it was reset in 2012 was brought up which lead my curiosity to wonder if anyone cried then.

Didn't realise you were just voicing your thoughts mid-thread. I Wonder what i'm having for tea tonight

[scottish]

back to fj;

- So point 1 stands, 3 out of how many games are there like 30? high scores are recent.
- My point was seemingly ignored, pointing out like 4 or 5 people who are inactive

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Didn't realise you were just voicing your thoughts mid-thread. I Wonder what i'm having for tea tonight

The topic of the 2012 reset came up so I thought where best to discuss this, in the thread where it's currently on topic or start a new one I wonder

I'm having curry.

[The Don]

back to fj;

- So point 1 stands, 3 out of how many games are there like 30? high scores are recent.
- My point was seemingly ignored, pointing out like 4 or 5 people who are inactive

No your point doesn't stand because high scores being old doesn't lower arcade activity

[Inseriousity.]

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Inseriousity.

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12-06-2014, 07:12 PM

I fail to see how these are not recent.

[scottish]

If it was reset previously and the arcade is in the position it's in now then isn't that just further proof that a reset does not solve the issue of activity. It's the other factors involved, primarily advertising.

The only thing that's wrong is that it's not really the people against the scores reset saying to import them. Pretty sure that was management saying it. I am arguing on a point of principle that a score reset wouldn't work (I have always argued against ideas that are suggested to fix a problem that wouldn't actually fix a problem!). If forum/general management are convinced by your argument instead and choose to do a reset then that is up to them and I would at least applaud them for making a decision even if I did think it is the wrong one that wouldn't solve anything and effort would be better spent on advertising and the other initiatives you have suggested.

Not really, it's nothing comparable as I've said (this is time 21 iirc) the idea isn't solely to reset the scores.

So comparing this to a situation where only scores were reset and saying OH IT DIDNT SOLVE ACTIVITY!1!!11!!1!1 is irrelevant.

Management said to import them? who?

Community poll it is.

[MKR&*42]

You can revamp it without resetting scores is the point EVERYONE is trying to make to you but clearly a revamp is impossible without removing scores :rolleyes:

[The Don]

Not really, it's nothing comparable as I've said (this is time 21 iirc) the idea isn't solely to reset the scores.

So comparing this to a situation where only scores were reset and saying OH IT DIDNT SOLVE ACTIVITY!1!!11!!1!1 is irrelevant.

Management said to import them? who?

Community poll it is.

You can add new games and fix dead links without resetting the scores though. Everyone agrees that the arcade needs new games and better advertisement, clearly resetting the scores is the unpopular and controversial suggestion which is why it's being argued. Don't be so naive and pretend that the other suggestions can't be done without resetting the scores.

[Inseriousity.]

So once again I have to respond to the idea that simply because it's not a score reset means that the score reset itself is a good idea if it's combined with other initiatives. Here we go:

I will quote my "tearing it apart". Fundamentally, a reset of the scoring will not solve the issue of activity. I think you can see from most of the games in the arcade that even those games where the high score was set in 2012, on the front page of the highscores, there are people within distance of reaching it who have played it in 2014. Therefore the high score itself does not necessarily suggest that people are put off from participating; it is instead other factors (mainly a lack of advertising and dust-settling). This is not conjecture, guesswork or opinion. This evidence can be found by simply looking at the games so it is fact used to justify a logical conclusion.

It is the 'other initiatives' that you suggest in conjunction with a reset that will help boost the arcade. This thread alone has advertised it and now has a few more people participating because they've remembered it actually exists. That is the main issue with the arcade and as demonstrated in the argument above, any reset will not work to achieve that aim.

Okay I'll explain another way:

Your argument: Resetting the arcade will encourage new members to play and older members to retain their score:

Option 1: Reset the arcade every 3 months.

The older members won't bother to retain their score if their effort is just going to be wasted in 3 months time.
The newer members will use the arcade then not bother (see above) once the 3 months is up.
And so on and so on until no-one's using it.

Option 2: Reset the arcade as a one off

The older members will still have the training from months/years "playing the game to master every technique" so will retain their high score in time, possibly even within the week and possibly with a higher score than before the reset because they won't have necessarily bothered trying to beat it again.
The newer members will play for a while until that process is complete.
The arcade is returned back to its original state.

I'm not saying you have to do nothing (my original post in this thread was a joke btw). I see no problem with adding new games, creating tournaments, having little competitions (although I would change them slightly from your original proposal). I am arguing with the options above that any sort of reset system within the arcade will not solve any issues.

If it is true as you say that the arcade is for "competitiveness and beating the high score", then me, rosy, Lewis being "upset that [our] progress has gone" is false because it's not "progress" being at the top. That's called winning and you're just a bad loser if you have to reset the score to zero to beat it.

[scottish]

Inseriousity. I like the cut off between 12/06/2014 and the massive gap to 15/12/2012 and the rest after that

However, as I really cba arguing over this and seems every time I look out of the thread I have 3 new replies to have to disprove.

This is going in circles and as I already said it's opinion vs opinion.

So @Shonly; @Wispur; @Phil; @Nick; do a community vote, see what the community thinks on the idea and then follow from there.

If the majority don't want a score reset then don't, but actually work to advertise the arcade and work to revamp the arcade, through different games (removing any that don't work as some mentioned in this thread) and work some reward scheme into it.

If they do, then again reset then work on the revamp don't just leave it to die as it currently is.