German Foreign Minister calls for an EU army in blow to Britain's renegotiation

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https://www.rt.com/news/327209-schau...poses-eu-army/

EU needs an army, says German Foreign Minister

In a blow to Britain's attempts to secure less power for Brussels the German Foreign Minister now calls for an EU army

To cope with security challenges at home and abroad, the EU must have a common military instead of 28 national armies, the German finance minister proposed in an interview, insisting the bloc should engage more to tackle Middle Eastern and African crises.

"We will have to spend a lot more funds for joint European defence initiatives," Wolfgang Schäuble, federal finance minister and vocal conservative politician, told Bild am Sonntag newspaper.

“In the end, our goal must be a common European Army,” he said, arguing that national military spending across 28 countries in the EU “could be employed in a far better way together.”

The ultimate end of the British Armed Forces and the creation of a federal European superstate. It's as clear as day what they're trying to create which is why the upcoming referendum is so important to get Britain out. If we don't leave now, we'll be dragged along into this dangerous project.

And he's not alone in pushing this crazy idea.

Jean Claude Junker, President of the EU Commission has said it.
Ursula von der Leyen, German Defence Minister, has said it.
Angela Merkel, German Chancellor has said it.

Let's see if Moe and Curly @abc; @The Don; will try and deny it and say i'm scaremongering when I say integration is continuing. Let them try.

Thoughts?

[The Don]

https://www.rt.com/news/327209-schau...poses-eu-army/

EU needs an army, says German Foreign Minister

In a blow to Britain's attempts to secure less power for Brussels the German Foreign Minister now calls for an EU army

The ultimate end of the British Armed Forces and the creation of a federal European superstate. It's as clear as day what they're trying to create which is why the upcoming referendum is so important to get Britain out. If we don't leave now, we'll be dragged along into this dangerous project.

And he's not alone in pushing this crazy idea.

Jean Claude Junker, President of the EU Commission has said it.
Ursula von der Leyen, German Defence Minister, has said it.
Angela Merkel, German Chancellor has said it.

Let's see if Moe and Curly @abc; @The Don; will try and deny it and say i'm scaremongering when I say integration is continuing. Let them try.

Thoughts?

Don't think i've ever said that the EU is not attempting for more integration, you would know this if you had a basic reading comprehension.

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Don't think i've ever said that the EU is not attempting for more integration, you would know this if you had a basic reading comprehension.

So in the other thread then you can now answer me instead of dismissing it and saying that I am looking through a crystal ball.

More integration is going to happen, much of which is unacceptable to Britain. So why will you not admit it is better to leave now rather than later?

We don't want a Eurozone bloc outvoting us, but that is where it is heading. We don't want to join Schengen, yet to play a "full part" in the EU project we would have to join at some point. We don't want a common European-wide criminal code, yet at some point this is coming. We don't want an EU army, yet that is coming down the tracks too. And lastly we do not want political unificiation, yet this is where all of this I just mentioned is heading.

Why would you have us stay?

[FlyingJesus]

More integration is going to happen, much of which is unacceptable to my interpretation of what Britain should be.

I think this is what you meant to say. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing either way (as usual, no matter how often you try to tell me otherwise) but as Akeam and others show time and time again, not everyone believes in the same Victorian British Bulldog fantasyland

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I think this is what you meant to say. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing either way (as usual, no matter how often you try to tell me otherwise) but as Akeam and others show time and time again, not everyone believes in the same Victorian British Bulldog fantasyland

Wrong thread mate.

Nobody is debating what they want Britain to look like, we're talking about where the EU is going and the realities of staying in.

[FlyingJesus]

You made a blanket statement about an entire country, I'm just saying that it's wrong to do so

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You made a blanket statement about an entire country, I'm just saying that it's wrong to do so

What statement about what country? :S Edit: Ah I see. Well I am talking generally of course. It would be politically impossible for any major party now in 2015 to advocate joining the Euro and it would be legally and constitutionally impossible for any party to change our legal system from English Common Law to continental Napoleonic Law. You'd agree with me there?

It seems to me that as these things are unacceptable even to our most pro-EU governments to date, our exit is a matter of when and not if.