9th circuit Clinton appointed judges rule against travel ban

[MKR&*42]

Lmao I love how you're willing to call legal experts 'idiots'. Please, do give me an extensive account as to your own knowledge of the legality over the ban, seeing as you clearly know better than someone who probably spent 10 years of their life training to be a judge.

God it's so **** amusing when people like you get upset at the judicial system for doing it's job, simply because it didn't go in your favour.

[FlyingJesus]

There you go again. "I don't count this" "all committed by men... but NOT ALL!"

What's it going to be? I count all terror attacks as important and major. And yes. Those are recent as well.

So 4 women over a decade ago being involved means it's ok to say that men aren't to blame, however you're totally happy with:

Take a look at all of these attacks. Muslims.

Despite it not being true at all

[-:Undertaker:-]

it's like banning all christians because of what the KKK or the WBC do which is not representative of that religion or all its believers

The KKK and WBC don't currently have tens if not hundreds of thousands of followers around the world and millions of sympathiers. Nor are they funded by Gulf states. Nor are they currently distributing propaganda around the Churches of America, the prisons or the schools. Nor are they currently engaged in a global jihad against non-believers. Nor are they in control of any terrority.

So it'd be like banning all Christians if there was actually a similarity. But there's not.

how about christians

the problem is TERRORISM IN GENERAL not a religion

there are 2 billion muslims in the world why should the majority of them suffer because of what one crazy sect is doing?

I mean I'm not actually expecting a logical response here because I know noone will ever get through to you and you'll come up with some astounding leap of logic in response....

Oh my God. The problem isn't Islamic terror she says, it's terrorism "in general". Unreal. :rolleyes: It's amazing though that you're telling us all that what we see with our own two eyes and what security experts say is wrong though. It's not as though we're facing a worldwide global jihad movement by Wahabbist Islam oh no no no, it's just sporadic incidents of general terror you tell us. Totally random with no connecting cause. Righttttttt.

In your eyes then, the Troubles must've just been random acts of terror. Nothing to do with Catholic/Irish republicanism as a cause. And the terrorism in Spain with ETA? Nothing to do with Basque separtism so says Laura! Why, just random acts of terror!

You threw logic out the window with your first reply. But whatever, go lay some flowers at the next London attack.

[Landon]

Lmao I love how you're willing to call legal experts 'idiots'. Please, do give me an extensive account as to your own knowledge of the legality over the ban, seeing as you clearly know better than someone who probably spent 10 years of their life training to be a judge.

God it's so **** amusing when people like you get upset at the judicial system for doing it's job, simply because it didn't go in your favour.

They're real experts, are they. Lol. Not good ones. They're idiots. You're right. I'm willing.
It's the job of the people to point out flaws. Tell you what. If the travel ban is approved by the supreme court, are you going to criticize the court, even though they are professionals? I'd like to see it.

Despite it not being true at all

Alright. Give me evidence that the majority of these attacks are not committed by Muslims. Let's see it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror..._United_States

Yes, let's take a look at all these attacks! Vast majority from 2010-present carried out by American born citizens Also a lot of white non-muslims on that list, but as we all know they aren't terrorists, just crazy white people with mental issues

A lot of shootings on that list too... almost as if the US has a major gun problem?

Most terror attacks in the UK and US are carried out by people who have lived there since childhood or even birth... tell me how a travel ban would prevent terrorism plz

There is no point in you bringing up terrorist attacks that were decades ago because Trump's proposed ban is in response to recent attacks

You're endorsing outside sourced terrorism. That's what I want to stop even if it's not a big problem. As soon as we stop outside terror, we can then put all resources into inside terror which is what I have said for a while and will continue. We won't have to deal with the outside sources while we're fixing up our own.

But there are millions of peaceful muslims and to ban them from travelling - which actually includes extremely influential, successful, talented, skilled, NEEDED, muslims - is unfair on them and bad for Americans and the American economy.

Of course its unfair. That's why I want to ban everyone so that the immigration system is reformed. But again, it wouldn't be voted through. So you've got a choice. Do you want to ban EVERYONE, where it would be fair to Muslims, or do you want to ban the Muslim nations, the source of the oursourced problems? You tell me what would be more fair.

And yes. You're cherrypicking. You sympathize with Muslims so anything that helps them is okay to you - not the law-abiding citizens.

[FlyingJesus]

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Alright. Give me evidence that the majority of these attacks are not committed by Muslims. Let's see it.

The only attack in America that's been put down as "terrorism" in 2017 was a white guy with a sword who stabbed an old black man because he didn't like interracial marriages. Aside from that, the four mass shootings that have occurred in your country are (as I already told you) 50% white, 25% black, 25% Latino as seen here. That is again, 0% Muslim

[Landon]

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The only attack in America that's been put down as "terrorism" in 2017 was a white guy with a sword who stabbed an old black man because he didn't like interracial marriages. Aside from that, the four mass shootings that have occurred in your country are (as I already told you) 50% white, 25% black, 25% Latino as seen here. That is again, 0% Muslim

Oh I remember. You only count 2017 as recent along with laura. okay you win.

[Matthew]

You're a sexist. They're not all committed by men. So let's ban everyone, shall we? I like the idea more than anything. Ban all immigration until a new system is reformed.

i don't understand why you're so obsessed with fixing the "outsourced" (???) problems first when its far more lethal problem at the moment, as it has been for some time in your country, is the "in-house" P) mass shootings

you can't justify banning all muslims to allow you to put more resources into your "inside terror" when that has been a problem for years and nothing has changed

[Landon]

i don't understand why you're so obsessed with fixing the "outsourced" (???) problems first when its clear the far bigger problem at the moment is "in-house" P) mass shootings

you can't justify banning all muslims to allow you to put more resources into your "inside terror" when that has been a problem for years and nothing has changed

If we try to fix inside sources then we ignore outside sources and suffer.

[Matthew]

If we try to fix inside sources then we ignore outside sources and suffer.

oh is that right is it

the whole reason mass shootings are a regular occurrence in your country is because all of your resources are going into your anti outsourced (i.e. anti muslim) agenda

i see

[Landon]

oh is that right is it

the whole reason mass shootings are a regular occurrence in your country is because all of your resources are going into your anti muslim agenda

i see

The fact of the matter is, radical islamic terrorism starts/started from a place outside of the United States. ISIS is positioned in the middle east. We need to work on destroying them, and then we can focus on destroying the remnants in the US.