Covid and Risk

[-:Undertaker:-]

heres a government paper suggesting facemasks work in april 2020 https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-21-april-2020
WHO discussing use of the mask on June 3rd, generally advising for it https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/...=1&isAllowed=y

maybe dont just trust the government which on wednesday said christmas wouldnt be cancelled, who then go on to cancel it

i literally dont even understand this issue with masks. i can understand not liking lockdowns etc. but its a big of fabric on your face like jesus christ calm down

It is not that I am against guidance, people should be fully entitled to follow government guidance on this issue.

My gripe is with mandatory rules. Although parliament is sovereign, I have always believed that parliament should behave in a manner in which is in the spirit of personal responsibility. In my view, the rules introduced by this government have overstepped the mark of what is acceptable in a free society and should be resisted. I cannot think of a government in centuries who have decided to impose such draconian rules - despite much more dire straits.

I think as you yourself have pointed out, the government/its scientists really do not have a clue. I agree. Therefore, it ought to be up to the individual to decide.

[dbgtz]

i never said the scientists didnt have a clue, i disproved your claim that scientists said masks dont work back in june. even that document you quote still says it may work to protect others

[Seatherny]

Ridiculous. I'm not performing surgery nor am I talking into an open wound.

No, you are potentially spreading a dangerous virus which is spreading extremely fast. It is the same as talking into an open wound.

Viruses can be transmitted via your eyes. So I will ask again: why are you not wearing goggles?

I ask again, are you purposely trying to be stupid?

The scientists and government said masks don't work in June.

They said masks DO work.

There is no "ending" endemic viruses.

Spain have followed draconian rules like you want, and infact locked down completely back in March and the virus is back to square one.

How long would you be prepared to close down the country - with the suicides, job losses, loneliness and cancers - for in regards to this virus?

You know why, BECAUSE PEOPLE DO NOT FOLLOW THE RULES. PEOPLE ARE TOO STUPID TO FOLLOW GUIDANCE. If everyone followed the guidance and washed/sanitised their hands, the virus spread would drastically slow down.

Did you wear a mask from birth to stop the transmission of the common flu which kills tens of thousands each year?

COVID kills more people and is not a seasonal flu.

This is my last reply to you on this topic. Either you are too stupid to understand basic facts, or you are purposely being stupid. Either way, if people liked you grew a brain or used some common sense, there would be less people committing suicide, less job losses, and the world would be much better.

[Seatherny]

And to add, my business benefits from a high death rate, yet I am here trying to slow the death rate down. Because life matters more than money.

[-:Undertaker:-]

i never said the scientists didnt have a clue, i disproved your claim that scientists said masks dont work back in june. even that document you quote still says it may work to protect others

Here my evidence is in video form that they said on numerous occasions masks do not work.

Never fails to make me smile. https://t.co/aMtgkyskoJ

— Peter Hitchens (@ClarkeMicah) December 20, 2020

No, you are potentially spreading a dangerous virus which is spreading extremely fast. It is the same as talking into an open wound.

I was potentially spreading a dangerous virus to those with co-morbidities (the common flu) whenever I lived my life from 1992 to 2020.

I did not stop living my life, nor did you.

I ask again, are you purposely trying to be stupid?

Why will you not answer my very simple question?

If the virus is as dangerous as you seem to believe, why will you not shield your eyes and wear goggles for protection?

They said masks DO work.

They've said a lot of things haven't they, each more stupid and contradictory than the last (see video above).

You are free to take their advice - and I am free not to.

You know why, BECAUSE PEOPLE DO NOT FOLLOW THE RULES. PEOPLE ARE TOO STUPID TO FOLLOW GUIDANCE. If everyone followed the guidance and washed/sanitised their hands, the virus spread would drastically slow down.

How handy, a policy which no matter how many times it fails (which it has) you can simply blame the public.

You are aware that.... for a policy to be sensible, it actually has to be workable?

COVID kills more people and is not a seasonal flu.

It does kill more people but not anything on the scale like you are painting.

This is my last reply to you on this topic. Either you are too stupid to understand basic facts, or you are purposely being stupid. Either way, if people liked you grew a brain or used some common sense, there would be less people committing suicide, less job losses, and the world would be much better.

Can you tell me how many terminal cancer diagnosis, suicides, heart attacks you think will be worth delaying this virus? Quantify it for me.

[GoldenMerc]

Dan, this is honestly the dumbest shit I've ever seen you write.

I don't think I ever imagined siding with Flyingjesus, but **** hell, get a grip. I don't like wearing a mask, I don't think anyone does, but I realise that this virus is no longer just protecting our family (older generation) it's also protecting us, no one I know has died from covid, but both my parents nearly ended up in hospital with it - No underlying health issues.

What you're saying is dangerous, and especially as younger kids use this forum, its pretty **** stupid to be telling people not to wear a mask.

[Triz]

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