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    Leadership plots and rumours surround Sir Keir Starmer

    There are moves afoot within the Labour Party to replace the Prime Minister


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    It is not unusual or surprising for MPs to grumble about their party leaders – nor to discuss how they might theoretically get rid of them and replace them with somebody else.

    But this time it appears to be more than just idle gossip. The Guardian has spoken to MPs, ministers – including at cabinet level – and party officials who claim that below-the-radar operations to oust the prime minister are already in place.

    “The conversation has moved on from ‘if’. Now it’s about ‘who’ and ‘how’,” one MP involved in plotting said. The summer recess, when the government vacated the public arena and allowed Reform UK to shape the narrative, crystallised the need for a change.

    “Before then, there were quite a lot of people saying we’ve got to make it work. We came back after the summer, the mood had significantly hardened,” one MP said.

    “People in their constituencies have been getting terrible feedback. Farage has been everywhere. The mood was: this has been a **** disaster. We’ve been given nothing to do. The government just cleared the pitch.”

    Others have been reflecting on the timing, with the general view that next May’s local elections – with Wales and dozens of councils in the north of England at risk of falling to Reform, and Scotland staying in the hands of the SNP – are a moment of particular peril for Starmer.

    But some don’t believe Starmer can survive even that long. After Downing Street’s leaden-footed response to the Mandelson row, furious MPs turned their ire on Morgan McSweeney, the No 10 chief of staff. But for most he is just a lightning rod for all their anger and disappointment.

    “I’m not even sure Starmer can survive until May,” one Blair-era cabinet minister said. “The mood is dire. The message from pretty much across the board was that one more major issue like Rayner/Peter and the dam would burst. But this is the Labour party so we shall see.”










    It is astounding that just over a year after winning a landslide majority, the government is already beginning to fall apart and with a lot of talk surrounding the Prime Minister's future. My feeling is that this fits into the broader trend of the two main parties disintegrating before our eyes.

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    The Prime Minister is under increasing pressure as another aide resigned today.

    Lord Mandelson and the backbenchers leaking against him is very much like how Dominic Cummings helped bring Boris Johnson down.

    All taking place as the American President rolls into Windsor later today.











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    More leadership plots tonight, just less than two weeks before the Budget.

    It seems as though the Prime Minister's team have directly attacked Wes Streeting, who is believed to be on leadership soundings. It's rather unreal that Sir Keir Starmer has served as PM for less than both Rishi Sunak and The Earl of Avon. It used to be that Eden's Ministry was the yardstick by which you would measure Prime Minister's not last very long.




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    Rishi Sunak was right. No one believed him. Fools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seatherny View Post
    Rishi Sunak was right. No one believed him. Fools.
    Right about what? Managing Britain into continued decline by banning fracking and smoking for under 18s? Reminder that Sunak plotted against two Prime Ministers, only to get into office, do nothing and then take the Tories to their most historic defeat in history. A total loser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    Right about what? Managing Britain into continued decline by banning fracking and smoking for under 18s? Reminder that Sunak plotted against two Prime Ministers, only to get into office, do nothing and then take the Tories to their most historic defeat in history. A total loser.
    Delusional. I guess by this logic you can call your love buddy Nige a "serial loser".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seatherny View Post
    Delusional. I guess by this logic you can call your love buddy Nige a "serial loser".
    Farage wasn't handed 365 seats from a sea-change election in 2019 where century-old Labour seats flipped.

    Sunak was, and then went on to acheive the worst result for the Tories ever. He makes Sir John Major look like an Olympic winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    Farage wasn't handed 365 seats from a sea-change election in 2019 where century-old Labour seats flipped.

    Sunak was, and then went on to acheive the worst result for the Tories ever. He makes Sir John Major look like an Olympic winner.
    Millions indirectly voted for Sunak at a GE. Only Thousands voted for Nige.

    Point proven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seatherny View Post
    Millions indirectly voted for Sunak at a GE. Only Thousands voted for Nige.

    Point proven.
    Boris Johnson won 43.6% of the vote in 2019 winning 365 seats, and Rishi Sunak only managed a record-low 23.7% winning a dismal 121 seats - with a huge portion of the Tory vote going off to vote for Nigel Farage (14.3%, 5 seats). How you can look at that and think of Sunak as anything other than a footnote in history who didn't achieve anything is beyond me. At least Sir John Major served 6 years in office.

    I can't tell you how much me and millions of other former Tory voters are looking forward to the next General Election when we can finally give the Tory Party the final - and fatal - killer blow. It's going to make 2024 look comparatively good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    Boris Johnson won 43.6% of the vote in 2019 winning 365 seats, and Rishi Sunak only managed a record-low 23.7% winning a dismal 121 seats - with a huge portion of the Tory vote going off to vote for Nigel Farage (14.3%, 5 seats). How you can look at that and think of Sunak as anything other than a footnote in history who didn't achieve anything is beyond me. At least Sir John Major served 6 years in office.

    I can't tell you how much me and millions of other former Tory voters are looking forward to the next General Election when we can finally give the Tory Party the final - and fatal - killer blow. It's going to make 2024 look comparatively good.
    You are clueless about how the world works. You believe any old crap and lies. Unbelievable.

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