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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos
    Lol Embraces has been banned.
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    Its not about the values. Its what people are willing to pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezy2
    I think we should stop following such rubbish, and unreliable rare values - that are judged on what the rare value staff want, not whats best for the habbo public. If this lot are wrong, what else can be wrong - The Super rares... hah, I mean... you consider how a HC plasto set is worth WAY more than a HC sofa - when, it should be worth much more, because it's exclusively 2nd month of habbo club, unlike the HC sofa, which is exclusively 1st month of Habbo Club.
    Hey Cheezy2,

    I think you may be uncertain on the meaning of 'rarest' in the case of that article. I assume they based it on stats of the rare which has had less people who bought it, but why would this be, released for less time or just because the rare is ugly? Less 'rare' rares may be more in demand because people want them for a specific use, or for a specific room, or just because they look nice.
    For example: If Habbo released a big white box and only 10 people bought it, everyone else had a chance to but they didn't want to waste their credits on something so ugly. Just because only 10 people has it doesn't mean someone will pay more for it then a pretty rare that more have, I mean who would want it?!

    I think no more needs to be said over the fact that habbox rare values are not determined by what our rare value reporters 'want to', if you properly researched into the word 'reporter' you may understand clearer. Our rare value reporters report on what people are offering for furni in trade rooms, not just one person, they'll watch in on what a lot of people offer and find an average [mean, median, mode, ect]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezy2
    I think we should stop following such rubbish, and unreliable rare values
    Hey, if you don't like the values don't follow them, each to his own.

    Remember back when you complained that habbox was posting slanderous articles towards people that weren't true? Please read post #1 of this thread and rethink what you said back then.



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    Quote Originally Posted by properclone
    Hey Cheezy2,

    I think you may be uncertain on the meaning of 'rarest' in the case of that article. I assume they based it on stats of the rare which has had less people who bought it, but why would this be, released for less time or just because the rare is ugly? Less 'rare' rares may be more in demand because people want them for a specific use, or for a specific room, or just because they look nice.
    For example: If Habbo released a big white box and only 10 people bought it, everyone else had a chance to but they didn't want to waste their credits on something so ugly. Just because only 10 people has it doesn't mean someone will pay more for it then a pretty rare that more have, I mean who would want it?!

    I think no more needs to be said over the fact that habbox rare values are not determined by what our rare value reporters 'want to', if you properly researched into the word 'reporter' you may understand clearer. Our rare value reporters report on what people are offering for furni in trade rooms, not just one person, they'll watch in on what a lot of people offer and find an average [mean, median, mode, ect]


    Hey, if you don't like the values don't follow them, each to his own.

    Remember back when you complained that habbox was posting slanderous articles towards people that weren't true? Please read post #1 of this thread and rethink what you said back then.



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    I didn't take time to read whatever the hell that was, but Unban Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus
    I didn't take time to read whatever the hell that was, but Unban Mark

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    Lmao, the cheek these days :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezy2
    If you look at the bottom of this weeks newsie article, you will see a list of the most rarest catalogue rare furni. However, when i read this, and decided to compare the list with habbox's; it just didn't add up.

    According to the newsie article, this is the top 10 rarest catalogue rare items, starting from rarest to less rarest -


    1. Bird Bath (Grey)
    2. Orange Parasol
    3. Hammock
    4. Bronze Elephant
    5. Bird Bath (Green)
    6. Silver Elephant
    7. Holiday Romance
    8. Aloe Vera
    9. Red Pillow
    10. White Oriental Screen


    Now, lets have a look at the way habbox have theirs in order from rarest to less rarest -

    1. Bird Bath (Grey)
    2. Bronze Elephant
    3. Bird Bath (Green)
    4. Silver Elephant
    5. Orange Parasol
    6. Aloe Vera
    7. Holiday Romance
    8. Hammock
    9. Red Pillow
    10. White Oriental Screen


    As you will see, the following items are not in correct ranking order - 'Orange Parasol, Hammock, Bronze Elephant, Green Bird Bath, Silver Elephant, Aloe Vera.' Even though the other 3 items are in the correct ranking, you will alos notice that habbox say that there are items rarer than those top 10... For example -

    According to Habbox, the Petal Patch of which is a catalogue rare - is said to be more rare than an Aloe Vera - but... it's not because the petal patch doesn't even appear in the top 10!

    The Hologirl, according to habbox is more rare than the holiday romance, yet, the Hologirl isn't in the top 10, but the holiday romance is.

    The Red and Blue Amber are more rare than the holiday romance too, and they aren't in the top 10!

    Same goes for the Red Dragon, Green Parasol, Yellow Parasol, Lappland Greetings, Purple Parasol, Snow Globe, Speakers Corner and Icecream machine. ALL of these items are made out to be rarer than the White Oriental Screen, however... the white oriental screen is 10th in the top 10, and none of these are in the top 10.

    I think we should stop following such rubbish, and unreliable rare values - that are judged on what the rare value staff want, not whats best for the habbo public. If this lot are wrong, what else can be wrong - The Super rares... hah, I mean... you consider how a HC plasto set is worth WAY more than a HC sofa - when, it should be worth much more, because it's exclusively 2nd month of habbo club, unlike the HC sofa, which is exclusively 1st month of Habbo Club.

    Anyway, thats all i wanted to say, thanks

    - Cheezy2
    Who can actually say that the list created by habbo is accurate?

    Lets cover the list shall we!


    1. Bird Bath (Grey) - Only ever released once ( The green and the grey were both released during a two week period in 2003)
    2. Orange Parasol - Only ever released for one hour. Very few had the opportunity to buy it. Habbo de-valued the orange para over night. They controlled the value on habbo.
    3. Hammock - Only ever released once in 2003
    4. Bronze Elephant - Only ever released once ( The bronze and the silver both released during a two week period in 2003)
    5. Bird Bath (Green) - As per the grey - If my memory is correct the green was released first.
    6. Silver Elephant - As per the bronze
    7. Holiday Romance - Only ever released once. Early 2003?
    8. Aloe Vera - Never been in the catalogue
    9. Red Pillow - Only ever released once - One of only a few new rares in 2005
    10. White Oriental Screen - Only ever released once - Also one of only a few new rares released in 2005


    The above comes from memory of rares being released, if I have made a mistake I stand corrected


    With regards to your comments on the Petal Patch
    Lets now talk about the Petal Patch once worth 8 or more HCs each. Habbo released it not so long ago, again controlling the value. What can you do with a petal patch that you cant do with an aloe vera? You can cover a whole floor and still walk across it. You cant do that with an aloe The petal patch is therefore all about demand.


    Now the Holo-girl
    The Holo-girl was released during 2005, yet again another rare de-valued by Habbo. Can you remember when it was worth 5/6 HC Sofas? Or was it higher? The Holiday Romance has never been re-released has it? But what can you do with a room full of them compared to the same number of holo-girls? Holo-girls are extremely pretty and very effective in rooms, thats why there is a demand for them.


    Ambers
    Now they were released in late 2003 I think. Both the red and the blue. Out of preference I would sooner have a red amber than a gold or a blue. But thats my personal choice. The red was released again if my memory serves me right. The same applies here to the Holiday Romance, you can do a lot more with ambers than you can with a Holiday Romance.


    The Parasols
    All the parasols were recently re-released including the orange which hadnt been available in the catalogue before. Instantly the value of the orange para was de-valued by Habbo. Even though it was only available for one hour or so.


    For me the Red Dragon has been probably the best rare released in 2005 its a great ornament. I will pay what I believe is a fair price. Using my guide
    Some of the rares that have been released are just not so exciting. The Snow Globe, the Lapland Greeting (If only sulake could spell) In many ways like the Holiday Romance don't really have as many uses as a holo-girl or a red amber to me. Perhaps many think the same. But they are still rares. Also remember just how old the Holiday-Romance is compared with all the other rares you have mentioned. It's one of the oldest.


    Speakers Corner was once a super rare. Look what Habbo did when they released it in the catalogue!
    The Gold Ice Cream Maker. Did you get excited and go and trade for loads? I didn't.
    Oriental Screens do have their uses and thats why they are in demand.
    Habbo has been trying to control the values by re-releasing rares and super rares in the last year.
    I think a lot of what is traded is about the demand for a piece of furni, this is what truly effects the value. Supply and demand.


    Why should we believe habbos top ten?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus
    I didn't take time to read whatever the hell that was, but Unban Mark

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    How rude, Go edit other posts that aren't on topic first, Then moan about me, and unban my Mark name [Watch the perm ban come along on this name.]Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus
    How rude, Go edit other posts that aren't on topic first, Then moan about me, and unban my Mark name [Watch the perm ban come along on this name.]
    *watches* lol

    on topic: I think the whole idea of rare values on sites are bad. It means people cant make profit etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissAlice

    The Gold Ice Cream Maker. Did you get excited and go and trade for loads? I didn't.
    Sorry, I don't no if it's just me, but nobody asked you wether you traded for lot's of Ice cream machines...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos
    *watches* lol

    on topic: I think the whole idea of rare values on sites are bad. It means people cant make profit etc.
    I dnt see why people are so conerned about profit ;S

    If your a decent trader you shud be able out of any furniture

    And Alice + proper i agree entirely with both of your posts
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