SayDev - The low down.

[Camy]

Good luck with it

[Calon]

I think the same as Meti.

Thanks simon.

[Plux]

I'm glad to see lots of interest!

[Blob]

Tbh, just cos you have a crap sig with lines that aren't even cool but you think they are doesn't mean this is going to succeed...

[Klydo]

Yeah this is a failure. First of all why do you have 5 people developing one very small and pre-done website? A vBulletin doesn't need 5 people to design, code and edit it. I could do all of that myself and to you guys and dolls I'm "crap" at what I do. 5 people owning the site isn't going to work one single tiny little bit - why? - as you'll have ego issues. So no more complaining at the fact I know what's what when it comes to my ability as you'll soon all be complaining at each other that one person is higher than the other.

To be perfectly honest Devode was a failure as are all HxF project. SayDev will just be a lot worse than Devode as all the owner's (ignoring RichardKnox as I don't know him) are completely ego filled already.

Caleb has no reason to be developing this site as vBulletin doesn't need a PHP coder.
Joshua has no reason has a web designer should be able to produce graphics.
iTech shouldn't have to be there as pretty sure Matt can code.
RichardKnox shouldn't be there as Matt basically flattened his design.

So yeah in terms of a straight mind then it's a one man project, possibly two to spread the work about.

All luck to you but I don't see it working one bit

[Excellent]

Yeah this is a failure. First of all why do you have 5 people developing one very small and pre-done website? A vBulletin doesn't need 5 people to design, code and edit it. I could do all of that myself and to you guys and dolls I'm "crap" at what I do. 5 people owning the site isn't going to work one single tiny little bit - why? - as you'll have ego issues. So no more complaining at the fact I know what's what when it comes to my ability as you'll soon all be complaining at each other that one person is higher than the other.

To be perfectly honest Devode was a failure as are all HxF project. SayDev will just be a lot worse than Devode as all the owner's (ignoring RichardKnox as I don't know him) are completely ego filled already.

Caleb has no reason to be developing this site as vBulletin doesn't need a PHP coder.
Joshua has no reason has a web designer should be able to produce graphics.
iTech shouldn't have to be there as pretty sure Matt can code.
RichardKnox shouldn't be there as Matt basically flattened his design.

So yeah in terms of a straight mind then it's a one man project, possibly two to spread the work about.

All luck to you but I don't see it working one bit

I sort of agree but it could succeed if there are different people on the team. Everybody will be shouting the odds and arguing, they won't come together as a team. Caleb is the most experienced out of all of them at coding and if someone points out that something could be coded better/better way he'd probably feel a tad peed off. Same with JH. Josh and Matt are going to lock horns because they both do graphics and are going to have a different feel of tastes and schemes.

You would want to stick to one designer, one coder.

[iTech]

Yeah this is a failure. First of all why do you have 5 people developing one very small and pre-done website? A vBulletin doesn't need 5 people to design, code and edit it. I could do all of that myself and to you guys and dolls I'm "crap" at what I do. 5 people owning the site isn't going to work one single tiny little bit - why? - as you'll have ego issues. So no more complaining at the fact I know what's what when it comes to my ability as you'll soon all be complaining at each other that one person is higher than the other.

To be perfectly honest Devode was a failure as are all HxF project. SayDev will just be a lot worse than Devode as all the owner's (ignoring RichardKnox as I don't know him) are completely ego filled already.

Caleb has no reason to be developing this site as vBulletin doesn't need a PHP coder.
Joshua has no reason has a web designer should be able to produce graphics.
iTech shouldn't have to be there as pretty sure Matt can code.
RichardKnox shouldn't be there as Matt basically flattened his design.

So yeah in terms of a straight mind then it's a one man project, possibly two to spread the work about.

All luck to you but I don't see it working one bit

Poor Greggy upset that you not involved? :rolleyes:
You do realise, no-one really gives a **** about your arrogance or your ego?

I sort of agree but it could succeed if there are different people on the team. Everybody will be shouting the odds and arguing, they won't come together as a team. Caleb is the most experienced out of all of them at coding and if someone points out that something could be coded better/better way he'd probably feel a tad peed off. Same with JH. Josh and Matt are going to lock horns because they both do graphics and are going to have a different feel of tastes and schemes.

You would want to stick to one designer, one coder.

I actually thought the same there, with us arguing, but we actually work really well together. I won't mostly disagree with Matt as I have a lot to learn from him, and I respect his opinions and his view on Web 2.0.

[Dentafrice]

Yeah this is a failure. First of all why do you have 5 people developing one very small and pre-done website? A vBulletin doesn't need 5 people to design, code and edit it. I could do all of that myself and to you guys and dolls I'm "crap" at what I do. 5 people owning the site isn't going to work one single tiny little bit - why? - as you'll have ego issues. So no more complaining at the fact I know what's what when it comes to my ability as you'll soon all be complaining at each other that one person is higher than the other.

To be perfectly honest Devode was a failure as are all HxF project. SayDev will just be a lot worse than Devode as all the owner's (ignoring RichardKnox as I don't know him) are completely ego filled already.

Caleb has no reason to be developing this site as vBulletin doesn't need a PHP coder.
Joshua has no reason has a web designer should be able to produce graphics.
iTech shouldn't have to be there as pretty sure Matt can code.
RichardKnox shouldn't be there as Matt basically flattened his design.

So yeah in terms of a straight mind then it's a one man project, possibly two to spread the work about.

All luck to you but I don't see it working one bit

We are not relying on many third-party modules, and we hope to be integrating some of our own work pretty soon, hence why me and JH are coding.

"I could do all of that myself" - no you couldn't, you don't know a lick of PHP, and couldn't code yourself out of an echo syntax error missing a ;.

So no more complaining at the fact I know what's what when it comes to my ability as you'll soon all be complaining at each other that one person is higher than the other.

No one really gives a **** what your ability is, no-one rung your doorbell either. You just want a place to whine, and no one is going to give you sympathy.

...than Devode as all the owner's (ignoring RichardKnox as I don't know him) are completely ego filled already.

HA! This made me laugh, saying something like that, because you really do not have room to talk.. grEGOrie :rolleyes:

I sort of agree but it could succeed if there are different people on the team. Everybody will be shouting the odds and arguing, they won't come together as a team. Caleb is the most experienced out of all of them at coding and if someone points out that something could be coded better/better way he'd probably feel a tad peed off. Same with JH. Josh and Matt are going to lock horns because they both do graphics and are going to have a different feel of tastes and schemes.

You would want to stick to one designer, one coder.

I thought that too, I thought we would argue and fuss all the time, but we really do work together great.

When something looks bad, we all speak up and say.. that looks horrible, or why can't it look this way or that way, and no-one gets their feelings hurt, or acts like a baby.

Because all in all, even if it does fail.. what have we lost? We became some great friends, and learned a hell of a lot from each other.

Josh and Matt work great together, and Josh is really learning a lot from Matt, and I'm teaching Matt a lot of things about PHP.

So all in all, we are all learning..

So at everyone who is yelling 'failure', you can sit here all day and cry about it.. but you're the one's still making fansites, and DJ panels.. and failing Social Networking sites.. while we are having fun and learning on the side, and all building great sites.

[Excellent]

I thought that too, I thought we would argue and fuss all the time, but we really do work together great.

When something looks bad, we all speak up and say.. that looks horrible, or why can't it look this way or that way, and no-one gets their feelings hurt, or acts like a baby.

Because all in all, even if it does fail.. what have we lost? We became some great friends, and learned a hell of a lot from each other.

Josh and Matt work great together, and Josh is really learning a lot from Matt, and I'm teaching Matt a lot of things about PHP.

So all in all, we are all learning..

So at everyone who is yelling 'failure', you can sit here all day and cry about it.. but you're the one's still making fansites, and DJ panels.. and failing Social Networking sites.. while we are having fun and learning on the side, and all building great sites.

Great to hear, just thought things would get in the way because everybody who is good at things has an ego, when that ego is challenged things can get nasty. The only reason I think it will fail is due to you all having things to do in your real lives. You obviously have college or school (whatever you call it in US) and work. So may richard or Source. Josh will be back at school soon and I think JH will too? So you all have things you need to devote to. Saydev isn't going to have the full support it will need to get it off the ground.

[Florx]

Yeah this is a failure. First of all why do you have 5 people developing one very small and pre-done website? A vBulletin doesn't need 5 people to design, code and edit it. I could do all of that myself and to you guys and dolls I'm "crap" at what I do. 5 people owning the site isn't going to work one single tiny little bit - why? - as you'll have ego issues. So no more complaining at the fact I know what's what when it comes to my ability as you'll soon all be complaining at each other that one person is higher than the other.

To be perfectly honest Devode was a failure as are all HxF project. SayDev will just be a lot worse than Devode as all the owner's (ignoring RichardKnox as I don't know him) are completely ego filled already.

Caleb has no reason to be developing this site as vBulletin doesn't need a PHP coder.
Joshua has no reason has a web designer should be able to produce graphics.
iTech shouldn't have to be there as pretty sure Matt can code.
RichardKnox shouldn't be there as Matt basically flattened his design.

So yeah in terms of a straight mind then it's a one man project, possibly two to spread the work about.

All luck to you but I don't see it working one bit

I'm sorry but you don't know me either, so don't label me with your assumptions.