Does God Exist?

[Sophiee]

i don't get it... how does some info on an eye mean god exists?

Creationists often use the eye in their argument against evolution, saying that it's too complex to have evolved, which is not true.

It doesn't. The proability of an all-knowing god can not be calculated in my opinion. Extremely unlikely, but definately not 0%.

Oh sorry, I thought you were advocating the existence of a god.

[N!ck]

Creationists often use the eye in their argument against evolution, saying that it's too complex to have evolved, which is not true.




Oh sorry, I thought you were advocating the existence of a god.

I am advocating that nobody knows for sure whether god exists or not, but the latter is by far the most likely.

[RandomManJay]

You're also too lazy to look into your own beliefs - or simply read my post. The big bang was created by religion! lol! They're co-existent. It's merely an extension of the beginning of genesis. Why do you think all you the big bang as a lone theory is dead-ended?

Its not exactly an extension of Genesis since the theory itself doesn't go into the belief of God and his role in the creation of the universe, but I think your reasoning behind that is that in terms of science, God is the Big Bang. And I don't understand what you mean by 'dead-ended'

[Casanova]

You're also too lazy to look into your own beliefs - or simply read my post. The big bang was created by religion! lol! They're co-existent. It's merely an extension of the beginning of genesis. Why do you think all you the big bang as a lone theory is dead-ended?

Great post, and I can see your point. But I see it as a a "lone" theory of our existence and creation because it's 99% proven, science can NOT be exact but what science can do is give you the probability and of course the deemed proof and explanation of how or what.

I believe this because it has been "proven" as much as it can be by non-biased peers.

I can NOT say it's true or false but it is my belief(s). Genesis was created by people whom had the belief of god, and can NOT be seen as non-biased?

[Netaxes]

No I believe there is a god? Nope. The earth, starts and other planets are created by gas and dust in the universe. Pressure and heat created the planets. As for different stuff like oxygen, was created mostly by small insects in the water that create oxygen.

For the video, I don't know how it proves (or even does) that there is a god. I still don't believe

[Virgin Mary]

Great post, and I can see your point. But I see it as a a "lone" theory of our existence and creation because it's 99% proven, science can NOT be exact but what science can do is give you the probability and of course the deemed proof and explanation of how or what.

I believe this because it has been "proven" as much as it can be by non-biased peers.

I can NOT say it's true or false but it is my belief(s). Genesis was created by people whom had the belief of god, and can NOT be seen as non-biased?

But people mistake the big bang theory as a theory for the creation of everything when it's only a theory for the creation of the universe.

[leah]

I'm Athiest, so in my opinion no.

[FlyingJesus]

noooo when will people realiiseeeeeeeee
there is not 1 shred of evidence
there is tons of evidence saying otherwise
i think ppl who believe in god are very arrogant (no offence)

And that post wasn't at all arrogant

How can everything be made to such perfection though, if you watched that video the information in it is far too complex to evolve over time.

Well technically it could quite easily - think about how many trillions of times Big Bangs could have occurred before our universe. Life has had all of time to become what it is, which means near infinite pasts before any DNA had formed are entirely possible

something/someone must have created God.

Not necessarily. You're thinking like a human, we're pretty confined in our way of thinking because we base everything on logic. It's entirely possible that a paradoxical being or group of beings could exist.

If God created us in his own image, we would all be celestial entities just like him because if he was physical in any way, he would be bound by many of the limitations within and outside this universe, therefore then only explanation is that God must have created us in his own image from a time before he was celestial and when he was man

So when I make a little man out of blu-tak "in my image" I'm only made of blu-tak myself?

People can believe what they want, it's just when they start moaning about other people and asking questions like this that annoys me

Personally I find atheists and agnostics to be the most pushy ones when it comes to religious debate. Just look at this thread for many examples. I'm of my own mind when it comes to divine beings (I'm not Christian, Hindu, Muslim or any other world religion but I do have a belief system) and from an outside view it's the non-religious chaps who are the most annoying and touchy on the subject.

Its not exactly an extension of Genesi

Yes it is.

[RandomManJay]

Yes it is.

The fact that you didn't even include what I said in its entirety makes me question whether you actually read it or understood it considering I actually stated why I said it isn't an exact extension and that I stated what I thought you ment by it. Also, you stated in an earlier post from this one that its in common view that The Big Bang created everything instead of what its truely meaning is, although the Big Bang didn't create only the universe, but released all matter and energy which exists within its continually increasing size due to its collapse as a singularity.

[FlyingJesus]

I hadn't posted in this thread prior to that so not sure who you think I am :S and the Big Bang is an extension of Genesis as it was theorised by Bible scholars for the purpose of incorporating science into religious text - whether it explicitly mentions God or not doesn't matter.

As for what the Big Bang created, "the universe" is generally considered to be everything that exists so you can't really differentiate between the two terms. It is entirely possible (although entirely impossible to prove) that there could be other universes with different physical laws that we have no way of getting to.

Just for clarification and not in relation to anything else that's really been said here: I'm guessing by the capitalisation of God that the topic of discussion is only the Judeo-Christian deity?