2010 FIFA World Cup

[CHA!NGANG]

Brazil squad hasn't got Pato, Ronaldinho, Diego. Not surprised about Diego, but the other two I am slightly.

[StefanWolves]

No Pato? that's outrageous.

[CHA!NGANG]

Diaby instead of Nasri? You're having a laugh...

[Geraint]

On paper, the best team there is Spain by far. Dunga's brought a more defensive team to Brazil which could help. Argentina's team is full of players for their league.

[CHA!NGANG]

On paper, the best team there is Spain by far. Dunga's brought a more defensive team to Brazil which could help. Argentina's team is full of players for their league.

Argentina is another Joke. No Zanetti or Cambiasso...

Spain have a good manager, and a good balance.

Argentina could probably end up playing 4-2-4 if they brought those two players along:

Zanetti - Demichelis (sp.) - Samuel - Heinze
---------- Mascherano - Cambiasso -----------
Messi -------------- Tevez -------------- Aguero
--------------------- Higuain ----------------------

They'd still have Milito and Lavezzi on the bench who are amazing forwards. Shame about the defence and keeper.

[StefanWolves]

Yeah but he's a **** manager, which is why they will do nothing in the WC.

[tm]

Betting update:

Overall winner
Spain 4/1 FAVOURITE
Brazil 5/1
England 6/1
Argentina 13/2
Italy 12/1
Holland 12/1
Germany 14/1
France 20/1
Portugal 25/1
Ivory Coast 28/1
Chile 40/1
Paraguay 40/1
Ghana 66/1
Mexico 66/1
Serbia 66/1
Usa 66/1
Uruguay 66/1
Denmark 100/1
Nigeria 100/1
Cameroon 100/1
Greece 125/1
South Africa 125/1
Australia 125/1
Switzerland 200/1
Slovakia 250/1
Slovenia 250/1
South Korea 250/1
Japan 300/1
Algeria 500/1
Honduras 750/1
North Korea 750/1
New Zealand 1000/1

Top Scorer
Messi, Lionel 8/1 FAVOURITE
Rooney, Wayne 9/1
Villa, David 9/1
Fabiano, Luis 10/1
Torres, Fernando 12/1
Ronaldo, Cristiano 14/1
Higuain, Gonzalo 16/1
Van Persie, Robin 22/1
Aguero, Sergio 25/1
Drogba, Didier 25/1
Klose, Miroslav 25/1
Milito, Diego 25/1
Negredo, Alvaro 25/1
Llorente, Fernando 25/1
Defoe, Jermaine 33/1
Nilmar 33/1
Robinho 33/1

Good value bets IMHO
Italy to win 12-1
Holland to win 12-1
Torres top scorer 12-1
Van Persie top scorer 22-1

from betfred.com - 12/05/2010

[CHA!NGANG]

I wouldn't mind taking that RVP Bet seeing as he's the freshest world class striker in the world at the moment, and has a few friendlys to get back to full form. He's scored 2 goals in his last 2 games for us, and missed a few chances which when he's on form he would smash in.

Holland also have a good team so they should get quite far although the defence is questionable.

[Black_Apalachi]

As if England is third favourite!!!!

[JackBuddy]

I know our chances of winning are unlikely, but I don't know why everyone is playing down our chances of going far in the tournament. Like Spain, we also have one of the best squads on paper IMO (bar a couple of positions). We've been to recent WC's with worse... think Trevor Sinclair, Danny Mills etc. People forget Spain were always the great underachievers in international football until they won Euro 2008. There's no reason we can't do something similar and have a similar turnaround.

Rooney, Ferdinand, Gerrard, Lampard, Terry, Cole could walk into any team in the world. Lennon and Walcott can single handedly tear defences to pieces.

Where's the faith!?