US Presidential Election 2016 Megathread

[-:Undertaker:-]

Picture from the White House earlier with the President-elect and outgoing President.

[wixard]

damn he looks old as **** in that photo

good luck trumpy
OBAMA, YOU'RE FIRED!!

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Obama is fit

[-:Undertaker:-]

Anyone on the Left who is still wondering why Ukip won the European Elections, the Conservatives won a majority, why we voted to Leave the EU in a referendum and why Trump has been elected US President this video may be for you if you care about ever winning again.

"How many times does the vote not have to go out way before we realise that our argument isn't won by hurling labels and insutls. Tory majority, Brexit, Trump, what next? When will we learn that the key is discussion. The left is responsible for this result because the left have now decided that any other opinion or any other way of looking at the world is unacceptable. We don't debate anymore because the left won the cultural wars so if you're on right you're a freak. You're evil. You're racist. You're stupid. You are a basket of deplorables. How do you think people are going to vote if you talk to them like that? When has anyone ever been persuaded by being insulted or labelled?"

This guy has sense and the Left might actually get somewhere if it listened to him. Judging by the reaction so far, no sign of it.

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Anyone on the Left who is still wondering why Ukip won the European Elections, the Conservatives won a majority, why we voted to Leave the EU in a referendum and why Trump has been elected US President this video may be for you if you care about ever winning again.

"How many times does the vote not have to go out way before we realise that our argument isn't won by hurling labels and insutls. Tory majority, Brexit, Trump, what next? When will we learn that the key is discussion. The left is responsible for this result because the left have now decided that any other opinion or any other way of looking at the world is unacceptable. We don't debate anymore because the left won the cultural wars so if you're on right you're a freak. You're evil. You're racist. You're stupid. You are a basket of deplorables. How do you think people are going to vote if you talk to them like that? When has anyone ever been persuaded by being insulted or labelled?"

This guy has sense and the Left might actually get somewhere if it listened to him. Judging by the reaction so far, no sign of it.

(eating my tea haven't watched the video just going by your post)

'When has anyone ever been persuaded by being insulted or labelled?' sorry if i've misread this but isn't this exactly the reason why people didn't get behind trump in the first place on the 'left' by that i assume you mean those who voted in & wanted hillary to be president? i am curious to see how he is as president but a part of me is worried but at the same time i don't properly understand american politics and politics doesn't interest me THAT much to consistently debate on the topic but i do read the majority of threads / debates to try educate myself on them, but isn't this exactly what the 'right' are doing? they don't shy away from labels / being offensive and insulting people themselves? i'm not here to debate with you so don't feel encouraged to go off, i am just genuinely asking a question with hopes of an explanation, not to be badgered with your usual style of response in politic related chat pls ty

ALSO you know it's ok for people to be upset and disappointed that someone they don't believe should be president is, right? they are entitled to their opinions as are you, me and anybody else in the world

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[Lewis]

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I'll start by saying I didn't even back Trump at first. He's not statesman like. BUT you know, as time has gone on, I have just had enough of the left/SJWs becoming so unreasonable with the political correctness that made me realise we needed someone like Trump. We needed someone who was rude. We needed someone who would give it back as good as he got. And Americans obviously thought the same. He's the strong right wing antidote to the stifling shutdown of free discussion over the past few years.

(eating my tea haven't watched the video just going by your post)

'When has anyone ever been persuaded by being insulted or labelled?' sorry if i've misread this but isn't this exactly the reason why people didn't get behind trump in the first place on the 'left' by that i assume you mean those who voted in & wanted hillary to be president? i am curious to see how he is as president but a part of me is worried but at the same time i don't properly understand american politics and politics doesn't interest me THAT much to consistently debate on the topic but i do read the majority of threads / debates to try educate myself on them, but isn't this exactly what the 'right' are doing? they don't shy away from labels / being offensive and insulting people themselves? i'm not here to debate with you so don't feel encouraged to go off, i am just genuinely asking a question with hopes of an explanation, not to be badgered with your usual style of response in politic related chat pls ty

Because there's a difference between disagreement with somebody and labelling your opponents all sorts of 'isms' when they have quite rational and widely held beliefs which you may disagree with but which a lot of people actually hold. One example could be gay marriage for example or serving gay people a baked cake, where if you air a disagreement even if you are polite about it then you're labelled as a homophobe. Or take immigration for example, where if we even attempt to discuss open borders and the effects of mass immigration then people are labelled as racist by the left.

Is opposing gay marriage and believing in cake shop owners right to free expression homophobic? NO
Is opposing mass immigration and believing in the superiority of your culture in your country racist or xenophobic? NO

If you disagree with the two above you're welcome to. Debate it though, don't throw a word and expect people to obey.

ALSO you know it's ok for people to be upset and disappointed that someone they don't believe should be president is, right? they are entitled to their opinions as are you, me and anybody else in the world

Indeed they are. But why is it that it is always those on the left who proceed to call the public stupid, scream for another vote or claim it was all down to some sort of 'ism' whether it is racism, homophobia or sexism. Maybe people just have different opinions to you. The left never accepts this, and seems to think that any opinion held contrary to the mainstream liberal one makes the holder of that opinion somehow evil and morally inferior when all they have is a different worldview. Look at the carry on from Lady Gaga, Robert DeNiro and countless others over what is essentially a regular 4-year election. You'd think Adolf Hitler had just won, it it absurd.

Watch the video, the guy (who identifies as left himself) is spot on.

[-:Undertaker:-]

President-elect Trump is not taking a salary. He's working for free.

Donald Trump has said he will NOT accept the $400,000 president's salary https://t.co/40IGqHEt6Y

— Daily Mail US (@Daily_MailUS) November 12, 2016

[Empired]

Oh my god how will the billionaire survive

What a brave man - he'll come out with practically nothing