*DEBATE* Should public smoking be banned? Winner = Klock

[Seatherny]

I dont really think it should be banned

Firstly, the goverment wont ban it because of the profit they make
2ndly, its the smokers decision if they want to smoke. It says on the cig packets SMOKING KILLS, so if they want to ignore the warning they can. I am pretty sure if they ban smoking a lot of people will go on strike etc

[JT-Fan]

I dont really think it should be banned

Firstly, the goverment wont ban it because of the profit they make
2ndly, its the smokers decision if they want to smoke. It says on the cig packets SMOKING KILLS, so if they want to ignore the warning they can. I am pretty sure if they ban smoking a lot of people will go on strike etc

But even though smoking kills, it addicts you. So smokers end up KNOWING it kills, but being so addicted that they do not listen. It;s hard to give up.

[Seatherny]

But even though smoking kills, it addicts you. So smokers end up KNOWING it kills, but being so addicted that they do not listen. It;s hard to give up.

why start if you know its addictive and it will kill you

[JT-Fan]

why start if you know its addictive and it will kill you

Because smokign can relieve stresses. And some people start to smoke so that their stresses can go away for a short while.

[Seatherny]

Because smokign can relieve stresses. And some people start to smoke so that their stresses can go away for a short while.

hmmm true
i dunno
this topic is really complicated in a way
if they ban it, a lot of people will kind of go mad and A LOT of factories will close which will lead to goverment loosing money and people loosing their jobs

[Jin]

Firstly, the goverment wont ban it because of the profit they make

So why would they bring up the topic for consideration, it wasnt the general public that decided it should be done it was the government in the first place, in which the public liked the idea of it.

If its an addiction they wont lose out on cigarette sales by much, and also think that for every smoker, the government needs to pay MORE to the NHS to deal with the illness' related to smoking and to street cleaning teams to clean the butt ridden streets.

So stopping people smoking or publicly smoking is really in their favour.

Alcohol is also bad for health. Do we see alcohol being banned in public? No. We see pubs being open for 24 hours. Does that mean just because someone chose to stick tobacco and smoke it they should be "isolated" and not alloud to smoke in public.
Why should it be banned, I mean yes it is not good to smoke for health reasons.

Number 1, its illegal to drink on the streets
Number 2, For me to have a beer or whisky in a public place doesnt harm anyone unless I started an alcohol related crime. Which is illegal anyway as I harmed someone.

But smoking is something that I could do in the public and harm someone internally YET not be arrested for it nor even be frowned upon (by many people)

if they ban it, a lot of people will kind of go mad and A LOT of factories will close which will lead to goverment loosing money and people loosing their jobs

Yes some people may be mad, but why would factories close and people lose their jobs? They are not banning smoking in general just in public areas. Why would the government lose money? other than the tax money from the people who decided to quit as the result of the ban but that would save them money elsewhere.

[Seatherny]

So why would they bring up the topic for consideration, it wasnt the general public that decided it should be done it was the government in the first place, in which the public liked the idea of it.

If its an addiction they wont lose out on cigarette sales by much, and also think that for every smoker, the government needs to pay MORE to the NHS to deal with the illness' related to smoking and to street cleaning teams to clean the butt ridden streets.

So stopping people smoking or publicly smoking is really in their favour.

never actually thought of the NHS cost lol
but they will have to pay the people who loose their jobs if smoking is banned (i think :s)

Yes some people may be mad, but why would factories close and people lose their jobs? They are not banning smoking in general just in public areas. Why would the government lose money? other than the tax money from the people who decided to quit as the result of the ban but that would save them money elsewhere.

didnt read the public areas part :p read the thread title and skimmed the text
Whats the point in banning it just in the public areas?
If they want to ban it, I think they should ban it in general not just public areas

[Laura.]

yeh
it will stop passive smoking

No it wouldn't. Nothing can stop passive smoking. The only way it can stop is if the government ban smoking for good. Which they will not do, too many arguements will break out. Also there would be more deaths due to the amount of people who have been smoking for years, since they have been teenagers. My granddad has been smoking for over 60 years. If he gave up suddenly, he would die because of all the nicotine build up, and no way of releasing it.

[Mit]

Personally I look at this topic in a different way. Smoking may be wrong and harmful, but it is an addiction. Once you have one puff you almost instantly become addicted. People smoke for many different reasons. I know several people who started smokine to relieve stress.

Actually you only start smoking if you really want to, it doesn't taste nice until you get used to the nicotine, so that means you are regularly smoking. Many non smokers have tried smoking but found it horrible and never had it again, it isnt an instant addiction. plus you cannot compare this to alcohol as alcohol doesnt affect people around them and doctors recommend a glass of wine a day...

Also i think smoking in your home with your family is selfish as you are killing those around you when they have not choosen to inhale your poisoness fumes...

[ross]

Everyone knows that smoking can cause cancer when you get older. right? But what most don't know is that it also has bad effects on your body right now? A cigarette contains about 4000 chemicals, many of which are poisonous.

Nicotine: a deadly poison
Arsenic: used in rat poison
Methane: a component of rocket fuel
Ammonia: found in floor cleaner
Cadmium: used in batteries
Carbon Monoxide: part of car exhaust
Formaldehyde: used to preserve (to keep in perfect condition) body tissue
Butane: lighter fluid
Hydrogen Cyanide: the poison used in gas chambers

Every time someone inhales smoke from a cigarette, small amounts of these chemicals get into your blood through your lungs. They travel to all the parts of your body and cause harm.

Smoking makes you smell bad, gives you wrinkles, stains your teeth, and gives you bad breath.
Smokers get 3 times more cavities than non-smokers.
Smoking lowers your hormone levels.
When smokers catch a cold, they are more likely than non-smokers to have a cough that lasts a long time. They are also more likely than non-smokers to get bronchitis and pneumonia.

Teen smokers have smaller lungs and a weaker heart than teen non-smokers. They also get sick more often than teens who don't smoke.
So, why do like us youngers smoke? it's wrong.. I don't smoke btw.

Every time you inhale smoke from a cigarette, you kill some of the air sacks in your lungs, called alveoli. These air sacks are where the oxygen that you breathe in is transferred into your blood. The alveoli don't grow back. So when you destroy them, you have permanently destroyed part of your lungs. This means that you won't do as well in activities where breathing is important, like sports, dancing, or singing.

Smoking paralyzes the cilia that line your lungs. Cilia are little hairlike structures that move back and forth to sweep particles out of your lungs. When you smoke, the cilia can't move and can't do their job. So dust, pollen, and other things that you inhale sit in your lungs and build up. Also, there are a lot of particles in smoke that get into your lungs. Since your cilia are paralyzed because of the smoke and can't clean them out, the particles sit in your lungs and form tar.

Someone might say 'I know smoking is bad for me, but I like it' pathetic..

Many young like chavs? or maybe not chavs, like the feeling that smoking gives thema good feeling, a some sort of 'power' - pathetic really, 'cos like they're not 'hard' they're killing themselves. This good feeling is from the nicotine in the cigarettes. Some think smoking will help them lose weight or stay thin. Many teens also feel like smoking gives them a sense of freedom and independence, and some smoke to feel more comfortable in social situations. Well, there's plenty more things to do than to smoke, right?

Nicotine can make you feel good, but is feeling good (a feeling you can also get from healthy activities like playing sports) really worth all the bad things cigarettes do to you? If you smoke, you'll get sick more often. You also have the chance of getting lung cancer or emphysema, which will make you really sick for a long time before you die. If you are very sick, that good feeling from nicotine won't seem so important anymore.

Smoking doesn't really help people lose weight. If that were true, every smoker would be thin.
Smoking lowers your hormone levels.

Don't you think that smoking is a sign that you can do what you want? That you are in control of your life? Think about it this way: When you decide to start smoking, you are doing exactly what tobacco companies want you to do. They spend millions of pounds every year on advertising to try to get new people, especially teens, to smoke.

Once they have you hooked, THEY are controlling YOU. You are forced to buy their products in order to support your addiction. Do you really want a big corporation controlling your life and telling you how to spend your money?

No, you don't, It's YOUR life. You should control it not some company. But, I think they've stopped advertisements now, not sure. Enough of my rant. 3

Ban smoking in public places, end of.