Vegetarianism?

[Ezzie.]

Yes but you see where I'm getting at? Althought the brain develops at a young age it hasn't learnt of new things if that makes sence

[iluvben]

I'm a carnivor I don't believe in killing the poor defenceless plants.

[Mentor]

You'd be surprised ;l in other countries they eat alot of them indonesia? i think not sure

Ape meat is still tecnical illgal "/ and very exspencive so isnt exsactly eaten commonly, The only reason its illgal is that Apes are rair and at risk of exstinction.. kep in mind

[Ezzie.]

Yes but i was watching a documentary about it (was incredible bored "/)
I believe that all the animals are quintesentially us but in lower evolved forms? If we mass cull them it's not going to help their evolution grow.

[Mentor]

Yes but i was watching a documentary about it (was incredible bored "/)
I believe that all the animals are quintesentially us but in lower evolved forms? If we mass cull them it's not going to help their evolution grow.

Well actaly that would be more natrual than trying to maintain there populations, Nature dictates the animal best suted to survive survives and the ones not susted to surviveing dont. If apes are not able to adapt in a way that will perlong there survival, Then there subspecies wil die out, And technicalky we are a force of eviltion here to, since, the apes better adpated to avoideing and staying safe from hunters survive, while the less adapated die, the better adapted survive, there children are then also better adpated, Hey presto evilotion in the works

Plus i think there more an early offshoot of a much earlier form of ape, as opposed to being a few stadges down on are own eviltionary ladder.

Althogh since in this context where not talking about apes in terms of meat, since its not something your likely to come by in most 1st world contarys, i think this offshot of topic is kinda irrlevnet to the matter.

[Ezzie.]

Yeah is fairly irrelevant but I just wanted to show a point. I know all about Darwin's survival of the fittest theory but to mass cull seems odd... I think the world is overpopulated as it is.. I doubt the earth was designed to hold as many humans as we have.

[JonJon]

Ape meat is still tecnical illgal "/ and very exspencive so isnt exsactly eaten commonly, The only reason its illgal is that Apes are rair and at risk of exstinction.. kep in mind

I thought also because they are 'intelligent creatures' like dolphins.

[FlyingJesus]

Yes but i was watching a documentary about it (was incredible bored "/)
I believe that all the animals are quintesentially us but in lower evolved forms? If we mass cull them it's not going to help their evolution grow.

Actually, evolution is sparked by a change of some sort, or a risk that endures through generations. If we start killing and eating a load of animals, they eventually become stronger, harder to kill, more evolved. That's beside the point however. We as a dominant species aren't looking to help other species evolve - we want to remain the overlords of Earth after all.

Let's recap the discussion so far:

* We've established that animals aren't developed enough to register pain properly, and that they only react as instinct to avoid danger.

* We've heard proof that plants feel the exact kind of pain as primitive animals, ruling out the idea that vegetarianism is kinder than eating meat.

* Humans killing for food is natural, and due to our evolved state, the ways in which we do so is also natural.

* It's been said by a few now that it's only the sentient species on the planet that register pain properly - humans and dolphins being thus far the only sentient species as we know it (and who eats dolphin?).

* Most importantly, the ideology of vegetarianism has been reduced to shi.. sugar.

[BL!NKEY]

Let's recap the discussion so far:

* We've established that animals aren't developed enough to register pain properly, and that they only react as instinct to avoid danger.

They just talked about how apes and dolphans can register pain. Also humans are considered animals but I know you are not talking about them. And Most animals feel pain. Have you ever seen a dog sad because it is sick or hurt. Dogs even get sad when they are lonly.

* We've heard proof that plants feel the exact kind of pain as primitive animals, ruling out the idea that vegetarianism is kinder than eating meat.

Where did this come from. Find me some information saying that plants feel the exact kind of pain as primitive animals. You are saying that plants without brains can feel pain as much as regular animals?

* Humans killing for food is natural, and due to our evolved state, the ways in which we do so is also natural.

I agree with this because it is natural to kill other beings to eat.

* It's been said by a few now that it's only the sentient species on the planet that register pain properly - humans and dolphins being thus far the only sentient species as we know it (and who eats dolphin?).

What about when like wolves get caught in traps? They start to wimper and obviously feel pain. When most animals are hurt like a body part is cut they act differently

* Most importantly, the ideology of vegetarianism has been reduced to shi.. sugar.

Why are thousands of people vegetarianisms if there is no reason to be?




Now I dont want to seem like I think I know everything abuot this because I dont.

Here is a list of some of the reasons people are vegies for those of you who dont understand why people would give up the best tasting thing on earth...

The HEALTH reason

Medical studies prove that a vegetarian diet is easier to digest, provides a wider range of nutrients and imposes fewer burdens and impurities on the body. Vegetarians are less susceptible to all the major diseases that afflict contemporary humanity, and thus live longer, healthier, more productive lives. They have fewer physical complaints, less frequent visits to the doctor, fewer dental problems and smaller medical bills. Their immune system is stronger, their bodies are purer, more refined and skin more beautiful.

Those who eat flesh are far more likely to contract cancer than those following a vegetarian diet are.

Meat-eaters ingest excessive amounts of cholesterol, making them dangerously susceptible to heart attacks.

Many scientific studies have concluded that eating meat can seriously damage your health.

The ECOLOGICAL reason

Planet earth is suffering. In large measure, the escalating loss of species, destruction of ancient rain forests to create pasturelands for livestock, loss of topsoils and the consequent increase of water impurities and air pollution have all been traced to the single fact of meat in the human diet. No single decision that we can make as individuals or as a race can have such a dramatic effect on the improvement of our planetary ecology as the decision to not eat meat. Many seeking to save the planet for future generations have made this decision for this reason and this reason alone.

The Economic reason

The simple fact is that to produce 1 lb of meat, it requires over 16 lbs of grain and many gallons of water. Millions of animals are breed for meat production, if they were not breed and the vegetation was used to feed people. There would be no poverty in the World.

[fσяgινєи]

ive been a vegetarian for 14 years. My whole life. GAH!